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Title: Chinese heaters.
Post by: dgs on January 19, 2021, 10:55:29 PM
Just thought I would update you all with the purchase of another Chinese heater. For anyone wanting to have a look my original post is here;http://biopowered.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3136.0

The original heater in my bio room has continued to work well now for just over 2 years.

What prompted me to purchase another one was that I needed another source of heat in my polytunnel for those long Winter nights. I now have some Dwarf Cavendish (eating type) bananas in there and they don't like to be too cold.

My thermobile waste oil heater that is in the polytunnel has been really unreliable recently so I needed the reassurance of a reliable heat source. I purchased one of the 5kw heaters all installed in the red metal case and what a lovely little thing it is. The price of these 2 years ago was over £140 and now they have come down to just £104. Like this one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-2KW-5KW-Diesel-Air-Heater-Remote-Control-For-Truck-Boat-SUV-Motorhome-Van/163850737412?hash=item262643d704:g:UQMAAOSwFe1ftiwN

I run it for up to 16 hours at a very low setting and although I need to check it accurately it seemed to run for the 1st two runs on 4 litres of kero. That is about 125mls per hour. I divert all the heat into a smaller (8x4 feet) plastic greenhouse where the bananas are and it keeps this at between 15 and 17degs C.

This new heater is really responsive to settings compared with the old one, I am really pleased so far.
Title: Re: Chinese heaters.
Post by: Chug on January 20, 2021, 08:57:08 AM
I fitted one to my cousin's van last week Dave, it has a different controller than most, it looks the same but has different button functions. I sussed out the pump priming and got it running but we're still trying to figure out the timer functions.

Its like this one ....from about 11 mins 40 secs in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKgfOTs4ZCM
Title: Re: Chinese heaters.
Post by: dgs on January 20, 2021, 12:14:08 PM
I fitted one to my cousin's van last week Dave, it has a different controller than most, it looks the same but has different button functions. I sussed out the pump priming and got it running but we're still trying to figure out the timer functions.

Its like this one ....from about 11 mins 40 secs in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKgfOTs4ZCM

I am usually hopeless with these sort of things but I found the timer functions easy enough (not that I usually use them) Didn't you get any instructions with it. I can send you a link if you want.
Title: Re: Chinese heaters.
Post by: Manfred on January 20, 2021, 07:44:23 PM
Hi Chug.
 You tube "Chinese diesel heater timer" Tommys van life has a quick how to set the timer.

I got one a month ago and can't find the instructions. It's only run on Bio and loving it with a clean exhaust. I was wary about them after what Dave said concerning soot. I us mine on the pulse setting and it ranges 1.6 to 5.5 pulses per second. Each pulse is .02 ml so set to 2.0 = 144 ml per hour.
 Check out "John wck 47" on you tube as he really knows these heaters. He really explains the workings.
 Atb Gaz
Title: Re: Chinese heaters.
Post by: Manfred on January 20, 2021, 08:00:31 PM
A quick look shows on some you can set the on and off time and on others you set a countdown timer for the start then a duration for the burn time. Sounds like maybe Chug has one of the later type.
Title: Re: Chinese heaters.
Post by: Chug on January 20, 2021, 08:47:18 PM
I've searched extensively and watched pretty much all the vids available and none of them have the same controller, except that one vid I linked to above and he's got no instructions either, all the others look physically the same but don't have P12V on powering up, all the others come up with the four zeros for the clock on powering up, and the usual buttons to press don't do the same functions on this version.
Title: Re: Chinese heaters.
Post by: Manfred on January 21, 2021, 09:21:39 AM
Try this. I think it's for your cousins type of controller.

            Activating the Timer Start/Stop function

 Press Settings and decrease buttons at the same time for 2 seconds.
 Timer active indicator will turn on (clock face)
 If activated while unit is shut down, this will schedule a start operation, and ON will flash next to the timer icon.
 If activated while unit is running, this will schedule a stop operation, and OFF will flash next to the timer icon.
 At any time while the timer function is active press the settings button to see the remaining time to ON or OFF.

            Setting the Timer Delay

 Press OK and Decrease buttons at the same time for 2 seconds.
 Timer active indicator will flash.
 Press On/Offbutton to select the digits to adjust.
 Use the increase and decrease buttons to adjust time delay up to 24 hours.
 Press the OK button to save the settings and exit the interface .. or press the Settings button to exit       without saving.

 


Title: Re: Chinese heaters.
Post by: Chug on January 21, 2021, 12:01:23 PM
Thanks manfred, next time my cousin comes round I'll have another play and see if this works, where did you get the info from?
Title: Re: Chinese heaters.
Post by: Manfred on January 21, 2021, 12:27:03 PM
I got jane to ask a diesel heater Facebook page and a lady was kind enough to upload it.
Title: Re: Chinese heaters.
Post by: Chug on January 21, 2021, 03:29:12 PM
What is the facbook group/page called please?
Title: Re: Chinese heaters.
Post by: dgs on January 21, 2021, 04:17:43 PM
There is two Chug,

Chinese diesel heater UK

Chinese Diesel vehicle air heaters Troubleshooting & Parts sales
Title: Re: Chinese heaters.
Post by: Manfred on January 21, 2021, 05:19:52 PM
 It was the 2nd one that Dave mentioned
 I can't give you a link as I'm faceless
Title: Re: Chinese heaters.
Post by: Chug on January 21, 2021, 08:58:26 PM
cheers I don't do facebok but its a private group anyway.
but I found instructions and an error code guide on another farcebook heater group
Title: Re: Chinese heaters.
Post by: dgs on February 03, 2021, 06:52:23 PM
Hi Chug.
 You tube "Chinese diesel heater timer" Tommys van life has a quick how to set the timer.

I got one a month ago and can't find the instructions. It's only run on Bio and loving it with a clean exhaust. I was wary about them after what Dave said concerning soot. I us mine on the pulse setting and it ranges 1.6 to 5.5 pulses per second. Each pulse is .02 ml so set to 2.0 = 144 ml per hour.
 Check out "John wck 47" on you tube as he really knows these heaters. He really explains the workings.
 Atb Gaz

Hi Manfred, 100% bio, thats amazing. Presumably it is the 2 to 5kw version, is it the one in the red box. I wonder if it would run for 16 hours on bio with a 1.6 pulse setting.
Title: Re: Chinese heaters.
Post by: Manfred on February 04, 2021, 08:18:03 PM
Hi Dave.
 The one that I bought is stated as 8kw, but they are really the 5kw units. It's not in the red casing just a stand alone unit to be fitted into a camper but was £85. Not that it matters as they are all the same. Go find  "John wck 47" on you tube and he compares all the heaters together. I know of another who is running one similar to yours on bio with no issues either. Give it a go it's free heat.
Title: Re: Chinese heaters.
Post by: dgs on February 04, 2021, 09:56:48 PM
Hi Dave.
 The one that I bought is stated as 8kw, but they are really the 5kw units. It's not in the red casing just a stand alone unit to be fitted into a camper but was £85. Not that it matters as they are all the same. Go find  "John wck 47" on you tube and he compares all the heaters together. I know of another who is running one similar to yours on bio with no issues either. Give it a go it's free heat.

Will do Manfred, thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Chinese heaters.
Post by: william crosby on February 08, 2021, 06:11:34 PM
Hi Dave

Any idea what Amps  these pull while running

Was thinking of using power supply to run one

Thanks
Title: Re: Chinese heaters.
Post by: dgs on February 08, 2021, 07:52:56 PM
About 10 amps on start up whilst the glo plug is on, then 1 to 2 afterwards. I think quite a few people use power supplys.

Manfred, I checked out that guy but there is nothing on his vids about running on bio.
Title: Re: Chinese heaters.
Post by: Manfred on February 08, 2021, 08:25:10 PM
 Sorry Dave I thought there was. Have faith and drain the tank and fill with bio. No harm done in trying. Mine works ok.
 With your previous heater did you see soot in the exhaust as mine is spotless.
 He suggests to occasionally run the heaters on max to burn off any soot buildup if only using on tickover.

 William Crosby
 I run my heater on a 12v 20a power supply as I didn't have a spare battery. Theyre cheap enough to buy. My only concern is with the LCD always on the power supply fan is constantly running.
Title: Re: Chinese heaters.
Post by: Chug on February 08, 2021, 08:46:46 PM
Unplug the lcd screen when the heater's not in use   ;)