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Biodiesel => Vehicles => Topic started by: alexanderfoti on December 18, 2015, 06:41:20 PM
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For those of us currently on small scale usage, how do you fill your vehicles?
I wouldn't mind getting a vaguely accurate calculation of the amount of fuel I put in (For mpg calculation) but also an easy to use funnel type thing.
I have a funnel with a flexy neck and all it wants to do is point to the ground the whole time! :( Ideas?
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I use the 3 litre veg oil bottles, with the bottom chopped off, if I want an upright funnel. I've got bigger veg bottles too.
I'd say they would stand a good chance of staying upright in a motorcycle filler cap.
I know exactly what you mean about the funnels with flexi neck, leaping all over the place in the wrong spot.
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Did I show you the bits I made to screw onto a 20 ltr tin?
You want something similar to fit a cubie of preferably a more rigid plastic can which adapts a large bore flexible PVC tube to the screw thread. I used something similar for years before I built the little filling station I've got.
3D printing project ... it's good fun drawing screw threads?
I think there are some photos of the idea on GLs site, or RM (what's happened to RM?) had some photos and videos either on here or the VOD.
Keith posted up some photos on the wiki here ...
http://www.biopowered.co.uk/wiki/Tips_and_wrinkles_1#Non_glugging_pourer (http://www.biopowered.co.uk/wiki/Tips_and_wrinkles_1#Non_glugging_pourer)
If you're only using to transfer oil, a small vent drilled in the top of the an could replace the vent pipe.
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I use 25Ltr Cubbies and a jiggle syphon to fill up. Very effective and easy to accurately identify the quantity dispensed. Cheap too.
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I stand 25l drums on top of each other, a bit of 3/4" tubing, and blow into the drum to start the syphon going.
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I have a 'favourite funnel' of 7 years with a moulded inner lip.
I hold it in place securely with a elastic bungee cord to the roof rails (estates always...)
I fill up via 10L camping water type can, nice and easy to handle.
One day I'll build a proper fuelling station.
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I have a funnel with a piece of pipe forced on the end. Used with a Gerry can and the lip on the can spout holds the funnel in place. For a small fill then a 10L Gerry with a spout would be fine, I use one for petrol on all the machines.
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piece of waste pipe,
45 deg compression elbow
cheap pound shop funnel
some small bits of wood
glue
put it all together, then get the little bits of wood and stick them to the outside of the waste pipe, inline with the three grooves in the filler neck.
they act like a keyway, stopping the funnel falling over.
will show you pics later.
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Talking of waste pipes ... those flexible trap connectors could be very useful.
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i use one as the filler neck to mu twin tank.
ill take a pic of that too,
but bear with me, ive just been presented with a birthday cake and the bombshell that half the family are on their way......
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Happy Birthday!
Eat the cake quickly before the rest of the family get there. It you can't manage it all ... I'll PM you my address.
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i got a crate of Stella too! :D :D :D ;D
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An adjustable microphone stand works really well with wire a hoop in the top to hold the funnel.
(now the funnel start)
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Thanks for all the replies! Didn't see them until now, no email notifications!
Had I noticed some of these replies I wouldn't have bought a big 12v transfer pump.
The idea is to have 2 hoses and the pump in the spare wheel well, underneath the boot carpet, lift up, insert one end into the tank, other into cubie, rinse repeat.
I also get to leave the pumping equipement in the car, as I don't have a driveway, so could get annoying lugging stuff about.
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(http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx184/gedsjeep/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG3472_zpsm4z9g3rc.jpg) (http://s754.photobucket.com/user/gedsjeep/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG3472_zpsm4z9g3rc.jpg.html)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcakHVklMG0
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twin tank filler
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It's still printing, so I'm not 100% sure it'll work but how about this to fit a standard 20 ltr plastic can (not a cubie).
A meter or so of 25mm ID, POVC tube, should allow you to hold the can while you stick the tube in the tank, then upend the can. You'll need a small hole in the top of the can to admit air.
(http://www.biopowered.co.uk/w/images/8/8d/Plastic_can_cap_i1-1.jpg)
(http://www.biopowered.co.uk/w/images/0/0a/Plastic_can_cap_i1-2.jpg)
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twin tank filler
Those flexible connectors are really useful!
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I've been adding bio in small quantities to some newish VW's and the filler neck are a pain to fill when using non pump nozzles
The Rocket Pourer needs a small section pipe.
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If you mean the part I printed that should be quite easy to change. What ID tube do you need?
i tried it out for the first time a week or so ago and it dribbled quite badly ... it may need an extra layer of sealing ring installed.
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I've always used 1 hose for the rocket pourer but its a pain filling the Caddy. The filler neck on caddy does not contain the user pressure release valve found on older VW's which allowed you fill the tank to the brim without major gurgling :)
I've ordered some polypropylene fittings namely a S60 IBC adapter with 1" BSP Female thread. I will add a 3/4" hose tale for some 3/4 wire reinforced clear PVC hose.
I will post up a pic. Still got loads of 20litre syngenta Roundup containers.
Slabs