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Biodiesel => Biodiesel equipment => Topic started by: neisel on March 11, 2015, 10:19:40 AM

Title: Please recommend a hand pump.....
Post by: neisel on March 11, 2015, 10:19:40 AM
... for transferring methanol from a barrel to jerry cans, that I can buy today, that's cheap & will last a while.

Many thanks!
Title: Re: Please recommend a hand pump.....
Post by: neisel on March 11, 2015, 10:27:24 AM
The Halfords local to me have this cheap one - http://www.halfords.com/motoring/garage-equipment/car-tools-hand-tools/laser-syphon-pump#tab2

Looks flimsy & the delivery end would be to be lengthened. I'm guessing the screw (hoping!) the screw is the same as a garden hose.

Title: Re: Please recommend a hand pump.....
Post by: greasemonkey on March 11, 2015, 11:12:46 AM
The problem with lengthening the pickup, is that the squeezee bit isn't strong enough to draw the liquid up to the top and start the siphon.
I don't know what to suggest, but I'd avoid that one.
Title: Re: Please recommend a hand pump.....
Post by: julianf on March 11, 2015, 11:24:48 AM
I have one of those red and clear plastic things (not like the one in the link but more like the ez pumps)

I got it free with a drum of meth, and its.fine for the job.  In addition, the fluid can syphon through the pump which is nice when emptying a drum into 25s (until you get down to the last 50 ltrs or so, but then the drum.is light enough to lift anyhow - or you can pump the last out if you're not in a rush / kerbside)

I don't know where you buy them.but I.would check.local auto parts places.
Title: Re: Please recommend a hand pump.....
Post by: julianf on March 11, 2015, 11:29:53 AM
I can't work out how to copy links on this device, but if you Google -

Autojoy
205
Barrel
Pump


Then I think a photo will come up.
Title: Re: Please recommend a hand pump.....
Post by: neisel on March 11, 2015, 12:20:47 PM
Julianf,

This one?

http://www.autojoy.co.uk/washing-litre-barrel-pump-heavy-duty-p-454.html
Title: Re: Please recommend a hand pump.....
Post by: photoman290 on March 11, 2015, 01:43:50 PM
compressed air is the other option. julesandtash uses/used that method. otherwise those cheap barrel puim,ps are supposed to be ok for meth.
Title: Re: Please recommend a hand pump.....
Post by: julianf on March 11, 2015, 03:48:26 PM
Julianf,

This one?

http://www.autojoy.co.uk/washing-litre-barrel-pump-heavy-duty-p-454.html

Yeah, that's pretty much it - i think the 'light duty' one was more similar to mine.  If you look about, there are loads that look almost the same, but i think mine looks more like the light duty version of the one you posted than any of the others.

Im sure they all do pretty much the same thing though.
Title: Re: Please recommend a hand pump.....
Post by: Manfred on March 11, 2015, 04:27:57 PM
I one of those syphon pumps from machinemart. You can empty a ibc with one if you carefull then stand on bricks to get the dregs outwith the inbuilt tam into a large jug.
Title: Re: Please recommend a hand pump.....
Post by: julesandtash on March 11, 2015, 09:21:31 PM
Compressed air is the way forward. Just a little bit of pressure in the drum (ideally with a regulator at the drum end so even if you leave a valve on you cant ovepressurise anything) and out comes the methanol.

You can either do what I did which is a 22mm pipe to the bottom sleeved inside a 28mm pipe which goes through a 1" to 28mm compression fitting, screwed into a 2" to 1" reducing bush and screw that into one barrel hole or, connect an air fitting into one barrel hole and an outlet pipe which reaches the bottom of the drum to the other.

Title: Re: Please recommend a hand pump.....
Post by: julianf on March 11, 2015, 09:44:06 PM
My suspicion is that the OP wont have a compressed air supply where he is picking up the meth from? : )
Title: Re: Please recommend a hand pump.....
Post by: neisel on March 12, 2015, 02:52:56 PM
Needing one immediately I went to Halfords to look at the one in the 2nd post. What a flimsy POS that particular syphon pump is!

In the end we tried about 8 feet of garden hose with a rubber bung in it.

Worked great, the whole barrel was empty in half an hour!

Thanks for all the replies.
Title: Re: Please recommend a hand pump.....
Post by: neisel on March 24, 2015, 11:20:11 AM
Does anyone have any experience of using one of these jiggle syphons? I'm thinking of for emptying a 205 litre barrel rather than an IBC.

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/jiggle-siphon?da=1&TC=RV-051712420

Title: Re: Please recommend a hand pump.....
Post by: photoman290 on March 24, 2015, 12:00:06 PM
i have one. works well on veg oil. haven't tried it on meth.
Title: Re: Please recommend a hand pump.....
Post by: Julian on March 24, 2015, 12:08:59 PM
I would imagine it would be difficult if the drum was almost empty.

Unfortunately it's in Manchester, but this came through on my pump search this morning ...


(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTIyWDE2MDA=/z/fdQAAOSwEeFVDpzl/$_57.JPG)


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/45-Gallon-Stainless-Drum-with-Pump-/301570801801?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4637054089 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/45-Gallon-Stainless-Drum-with-Pump-/301570801801?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4637054089)


This appears to be the pump in question ...

http://www.hillpumps.com/acatalog/Hand_Lever_Pump_Series950.html (http://www.hillpumps.com/acatalog/Hand_Lever_Pump_Series950.html)

Looks like there should be a lever with it but I'm sure one could be made.