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Title: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: Tony on November 06, 2014, 08:36:11 AM
First time this year I've had to scrape the windscreen.  Started OK though!
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: GedsJeep on November 06, 2014, 09:41:08 AM
there was frost here at 11:30pm last night.

and ive been too busy to fit the twin tank.

this will be interesting.
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: julianf on November 06, 2014, 10:04:42 AM
I was watching one of those more indepth forecasts a few days ago.

It said that the wind was changing, so that, instead of getting warm air from Africa, we would suddenly get atlantic, or northern air - i cant recall which.

...so the temp was sudddenly going to drop (as it just has) and then, apparently, the wind was going to change back again or somthing - so it was going to get warmer again?

I dont normally trust these things at all, but this one seemed a little more credible than the usual "its going to start to rain at 3:30" things.
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: Tony on November 06, 2014, 11:19:43 AM
That's quite interesting.  There's a jetstream forecast here:

http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=jetstream;sess=

It gives some idea of where the wind is going to be blowing.
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: kamaangir on November 06, 2014, 11:53:30 AM
What did you do Tony, use your grass skirt to clean the windscreen? Hahahaha
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: greasemonkey on November 06, 2014, 02:51:47 PM
Hasn't actually hit freezing here yet, although there has been frost nearby. It's gone low enough, but we keep getting it wet.
Feels real 'orrible and cold though.
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: therecklessengineer on November 06, 2014, 03:19:44 PM
Yes, I had frost on the screen this morning.

I stayed inside in the warm.

I'm supposed to be kitesurfing this weekend. I really hope my wetsuit is up to it, or else it'll be winkle shrinkle.
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: Tony on November 06, 2014, 07:31:59 PM
Umm yes... was planning on sailing on Saturday if the weather is right, not good temperatures to capsize in that's for sure!
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: nigelb on November 06, 2014, 10:48:06 PM
It made me worry this morning when both my doorstep samples were rock solid.

Car started just fine and drove as well as it always has once I took an ice pick to the windscreen ;)
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: Head Womble on November 06, 2014, 11:13:56 PM
After scraping the windows this morning I broke down at 6.20 not 50yards from work, lift pump has given up.
Had to leave the Disco at work and get the wife to pick me up, she was not impressed.
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: Tony on November 06, 2014, 11:29:06 PM
It's a Disco, it might have done that anyway if it was tropical out!  :P
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: GedsJeep on November 06, 2014, 11:35:52 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2060778.m570.l1311.R1.TR2.TRC1.A0.H0.X12v+dia&_nkw=12v+diaphragm+pump&_sacat=0
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: Head Womble on November 06, 2014, 11:48:33 PM
It's a Disco, it might have done that anyway if it was tropical out!  :P

You have a point.

The annoying bit is Jules put a new lift pump on it 7K ago.
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: Head Womble on November 06, 2014, 11:49:34 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2060778.m570.l1311.R1.TR2.TRC1.A0.H0.X12v+dia&_nkw=12v+diaphragm+pump&_sacat=0

And what good to me is a water pump.
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: julianf on November 07, 2014, 07:44:57 AM
Did the lift pump on mine only last week.  It had started dripping, but, what i overlooked, was it was dripping on the inside as well as the outside (engine oil level rose a fair bit).


And then this week's chore is a new stop solenoid, as its sticking again (engine runs on for a few seconds after ignition off).

I had exactly the same issue last winter (or was it the winter before?) and changing the solenoid sorted it.

Maybe ill find an OEM part this time!
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: julianf on November 07, 2014, 07:47:45 AM
Mark,

You know about the gauze on the genuine pumps, right?  Small screw on the top, and the housing comes apart, and theres a gauze filter in there.

I dont think all the aftermarket have them, but, IIRC, the gauze blocking caused Jules some entertainment on his trip back from france.
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: GedsJeep on November 07, 2014, 09:38:16 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2060778.m570.l1311.R1.TR2.TRC1.A0.H0.X12v+dia&_nkw=12v+diaphragm+pump&_sacat=0

And what good to me is a water pump.

probably more use than your current lift pump.....

i have used one of them as a lift pump for two years.a few others on here have fitted them too.

thats what good they are

yer welcome.....
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: therecklessengineer on November 07, 2014, 03:27:35 PM
I cut a 'failed' lift pump open once.

I found it to be perfect inside, but a non-serviceable gauze filter was on the inlet. Had I a 'rock catcher' in-line (sausage type I think some call them) it would have saved the lift pump.
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: Tony on November 07, 2014, 10:12:18 PM
I've also had a lift pump block its inlet.  I reversed polarity across it and it blow the crap out but made some unhappy noises doing it (I guess the brushes didn't like going backward across a commutator?).  Seemed to survive the experience though!
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: Head Womble on November 08, 2014, 12:09:52 AM
Mark,

You know about the gauze on the genuine pumps, right?  Small screw on the top, and the housing comes apart, and theres a gauze filter in there.

I dont think all the aftermarket have them, but, IIRC, the gauze blocking caused Jules some entertainment on his trip back from france.

The gauze filter was clean (mostly), it's was a Delfi unit and the new one is also Delfi.
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: Head Womble on November 08, 2014, 12:15:25 AM
Did the lift pump on mine only last week.  It had started dripping, but, what i overlooked, was it was dripping on the inside as well as the outside (engine oil level rose a fair bit).


And then this week's chore is a new stop solenoid, as its sticking again (engine runs on for a few seconds after ignition off).

I had exactly the same issue last winter (or was it the winter before?) and changing the solenoid sorted it.

Maybe ill find an OEM part this time!

Tonight I removed my stop solenoid and took the plunger out to see if that was my problem as after changing the lift pump it still would not run.
I've cleaned the sedimenter out also (full of crap and water).
I'll be replacing the IP over the weekend as I have fuel getting to it and out of the return pipe, but nothing to the injectors.
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: GedsJeep on November 08, 2014, 01:03:52 AM
so had the lift pump failed as well as the IP, or was it just the ip?
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: Julian on November 08, 2014, 01:30:50 AM
Mark, how many wires on the stop solenoid?  If more than one it can cause all sorts of problems.  They seem to be coded to the car.

Great advise from Jules ... smash a multi-wire solenoid with a hammer to get to the old type single wire solenoid inside.  Even then I think I had to hot wire it and had problems with something else, possibly the glow plugs had to be hot wired too.
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: Head Womble on November 08, 2014, 01:43:47 PM
so had the lift pump failed as well as the IP, or was it just the ip?

Lift pump had failed but that was not what was stopping the engine from running, the IP is not delivering fuel to the injectors even with the solenoid plunger removed.
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: Head Womble on November 08, 2014, 01:46:31 PM
Mark, how many wires on the stop solenoid?  If more than one it can cause all sorts of problems.  They seem to be coded to the car.

Great advise from Jules ... smash a multi-wire solenoid with a hammer to get to the old type single wire solenoid inside.  Even then I think I had to hot wire it and had problems with something else, possibly the glow plugs had to be hot wired too.

It's the single wire type.
I have just got back home with the replacement IP and that to is a single wire (apart from the EGR control unit that will be removed anyway).
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: Julian on November 08, 2014, 02:19:54 PM
Should be straight forward in that respect then.
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: julesandtash on November 09, 2014, 06:18:39 PM
Mark, that sedimenter was clean when I sold it to you - what on earth have you been running on  :)

It is pretty rare for a Bosch VE to die without warning like that - must be something pretty bad (or clogged inlet banjo - but I assume that is OK)
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: Head Womble on November 09, 2014, 06:44:25 PM
It's alive again.

Took about 2 1/2hrs to swap the pump and once primed she fired up first turn.
Running well if not down on power as the pump has not been tweaked, yet.

Thanks for the lone of the pump tool Julian, it made the job much easier.

Inlet banjo was clean, I think the gunk in the sedimenter  maybe down to my off roading, as the tank breather is only 60cm off the ground, not good for deep(ish) water, this maybe what killed the pump but I'll pull it apart and see what the problem is, when I get time.

Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: julesandtash on November 09, 2014, 09:46:00 PM
If you have been playing in deep muddy water, you may want to check the oil in your front and rear diffs. If you have sucked any water in to them then the contents will look like dark mayonnaise and the teeth with not like you for it.
Serious off roaders link all the breathers into a manifold then take the breather pipe from that up the side of the snorkel and therefore avoid any chance of mud and water getting in.

You can even get a breather which replaces that plate you would have accessed the injection pump drive sprocket through and allows the timing housing to breath remotely (assuming the wading plugs are in)
Title: Re: Frost on the screen - hello winter
Post by: Head Womble on November 09, 2014, 10:13:09 PM
The front diff and I assume the rear diff have extended breathers up into the bulkhead (although I suspect the front one is blocked as it was under slight pressure when I removed one of the rubber end caps when the axle was hot).

As it has A/C the timing cover is the A/C belt tensioner, not sure if there's a breather kit for A/C cars.

I'm not sure where the tank breather is, something I need to look into.

Car someone split this thread as it's gone well off topic.