Biopowered - vegetable oil and biodiesel forum
General => Chatter => Topic started by: Julian on August 28, 2014, 11:09:48 AM
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That was a weired experience. I had to go to a petrol station today, first time in very many years. Not for me you understand, it was for a friend who'd run out of petrol.
Over 20 quid didn't fill a Jerry can ... scary!
I had a thought while filling the car on the hard shoulder with HGVs thundering by at 60 mph a few feet away ... is it illegal for a private individual to attend to a breakdown on a motorway? Got a feeling at the back of my mind it might be.
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I wasn't sure either...
According to http://www.webcars.co.uk/article.asp?id=121
"It is illegal for a passer-by to stop and help someone on a motorway."
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Ah, I might be OK then as I was called to assist.
It makes a bit of a mockery of all the regulations and technology. This stretch of the motorway is covered by surveillance cameras and I passed a "motorway Patrol" sitting in a pull off just a mile away from her.
If the system worked as intended they have spotted her on the cameras and got the patrol to her within a couple of minutes.
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I experienced something similar a couple of years ago when I borrowed a petrol powered water pump, the owner said just refill the tank when your finished.
When finished I grabbed a 5ltr pertol can and off to the local garage, as usual more expensive than the big chains, it came close to calling an ambulance when he told me how much.
I remember thinking at the time , how the feck do poeple afford to run motors nowadays?
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I've just done a little googling and there appears to be no definitive answer I can find. Even a driving instructors forum posted completely differing views.
A government site just said get out of the car and use the emergency phones ... nothing else.
What if I had a can of bio in the back and ran out, could I top up and drive off?
It would appear that you can tow a car with a tow rope, off a motorway if it's broken down on the motorway, but you cannot use a motorway to tow a car that broke down elsewhere.
When I had head problems with the Disco, I carried a cubie of water in the back. I stopped on the M25 to top it up and the motorway patrol turned up. We had a nice chat on the hard shoulder after I filled it up and I went on my way. Even letting them know I knew it was liable to happen due to the head problem, they didn't have an issue with it.
Be nice to know a definitive answer.
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I was always under tbe impression that it is illegal to stop on a motorway unless you have broken down, even to assist another driver.
You can only use a towrope, on any road, to tow a vehicle to the first safe place and no further.
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Its illegal to run out of fuel in some counties as is middle lane hogging. (don't get me started) >:(
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Its illegal to run out of fuel in some counties as is middle lane hogging. (don't get me started) >:(
You don't drive on the M25 or the M1 then? ;D
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You wanna try running a feckin petrol car.
Dirty? I feel like tipping a gallon over my head and striking a match.
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Its illegal to run out of fuel in some counties as is middle lane hogging. (don't get me started) >:(
You don't drive on the M25 or the M1 then? ;D
I stick to the middle lane on the M25 sometimes for over an hour to do half a mile ::)
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There are as far as I am aware two possible offences connected to this post: stopping on the hard shoulder and using the hard shoulder. The hard shoulder is only there for emergency use not if you need a pee or a sleep. I think you will find helping a break down could be considered as you stopping on the hard shoulder, but you would need to be a hard arse to stick someone on for it. However the motor way is a very scary place to stop even if you are trying to help. I would not stop with out a high viz and even then I would put my motor 20-30 metres behind the stopped vehicle and stick my haz lights on and I would not hang about refilling either.
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There are as far as I am aware two possible offences connected to this post: stopping on the hard shoulder and using the hard shoulder. The hard shoulder is only there for emergency use not if you need a pee or a sleep. I think you will find helping a break down could be considered as you stopping on the hard shoulder, but you would need to be a hard arse to stick someone on for it. However the motor way is a very scary place to stop even if you are trying to help. I would not stop with out a high viz and even then I would put my motor 20-30 metres behind the stopped vehicle and stick my haz lights on and I would not hang about refilling either.
Thanks for that. It sounds as if your posts is based on knowledge rather than hearsay ... a member of the police perhaps?
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I have lived on the continent for 30 years and carry a high vis bib, warning triangle and spare bulbs in my van (and jaffa cakes) always. Which is a legal requierment in most of europe.
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There's another member of the forum who should be feeling far dirtier than me ... I was just buying fuel for someone else.
Wonder if he'll own up or should we start a wiki leaks board so we can dish the dirt?
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I feel slightly dirty because I bought 5l of diesel to put in the Largo I've got for sale, because I don't want to scare off potential buyers...
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I feel slightly dirty because I bought 5l of diesel to put in the Largo I've got for sale, because I don't want to scare off potential buyers...
Oh ... they're all coming out of the woodwork now!
It wasn't you I was referring to ... wonder how many more will own up?
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Oh, I've just twigged. Someone else running a VW on Satans spunk......
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Bought a van last month forgot to take some bio with me
had to put £10.00 of diesel in to get me home.
£10.00 in and the fuel gauge needle hardly moved
the low fuel light came on 20 miles from home but it was
not getting any more I still feel the pain.
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There's another member of the forum who should be feeling far dirtier than me ... I was just buying fuel for someone else.
Wonder if he'll own up or should we start a wiki leaks board so we can dish the dirt?
OK, hands up, it's me.
We've been down to the west country on holiday with the caravan, was a little short on fuel before we went so didn't take any with me (left home with a full tank).
20 miles from home the light came on, not wishing to run the risk of running out on the motorway I pulled off and splashed £10 of smelly arab piss in the tank, all would have been fine (and I would not of had to admit it) if the disco started afterwards,
however when the key was turned, nothing, nothing at all.
So I phoned the RAC to get on the waiting list, then phoned the only knowledgeable disco man (that was in the country) that I have a number for.
Shortly afterwards she started without me doing anything !!!!
But said knowledgeable disco man couldn't keep it to himself, oh no, he just had to broadcast it to anyone and everyone.
Oh yes, thanks for the advice and offer of help Julian, much appreciated mate.
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This is turning into some kind of therapy session for the traumatic experiences we've been through at the tax station.
I don't know how people do it every week, it must take some kind of special mental conditioning not to see the pound signs shooting up on the pump. *shudder*
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My name is Mark and today I visited a tax station...........................................
The guy in front of me had put £100 in his X5, and it hadn't clicked off.
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Then there's always the two or three who ask me every time they see me, "Is it worth it, is it worth it" like some kind of stuck record.
Obviously a diet of drinking tax in the pub and watching telly has totally diminished their capability to perform simple financial calculations, like 25p a litre is cheaper than £1.37 a litre.
Then the same pillocks ask what exactly it is that I do at night, being as I don't have a telly.........
Anyway, I think I just bought a Vitara Jeep. Needs a ticket, but I should be able to cope with that.
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I think we need a forum naughty step.
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OK I will go and stand on the naughty step I have been in the pub tonight drinking tax.
Not watched the television to busy making a batch.
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My people wagon runs on lpg, a concious decision so I didn't end up having more room given to bio storage than seats for the kids on family holidays as was likely since the decision to downsize from a Transit to a regular people carrier, if I had bought a diesel I just wouldn't have given up until I had a boot load and a roofbox full of the stuff ready for a long journey.
Needless to say even at those prices it doesn't do any unnecessary miles strictly for when everyone is going somewhere at the same time, if I'm not in too much of a hurry I'll even do 2 short trips in the Astra rather than take the Estima out the drive. Too frightening to pay 60-70p a litre, regularly paying those sort of prices at the pump was the last straw before I decided to see if my Serena would survive on veg.