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Title: Towing dolly / A frame
Post by: Rotary-Motion on July 03, 2014, 10:04:27 PM
hi guys

im looking for a towing dolly a frame if anyone has one to sell please.

also

for the tech heads here, if I use this a frame does the car become a trailer, so the car needs no MOT or TAX???

I been told yes aslong as all 4 tyres are good???
Title: Re: Towing dolly / A frame
Post by: Julian on July 03, 2014, 10:14:40 PM
Years ago a few of us used to drag Land Rovers around the country on A frames.  They were off road vehicles and so not road legal.  The frame was just that, a frame, no brakes etc although I we did use trailer boards.  Never got pulled so always assumed it was legal.  The only time I had a problem was towing a Series III (shortly after they came out in the early seventies)  These "new" Luxury Landrovers had steering locks ... a fact that I totally forgot until we arrived at the first roundabout!

I believe it's a bit different now.  I think the frame has to have an over-run brake attached to the towed cars system.  It must be legal some how because you often see big RVs A baring cars.
Title: Re: Towing dolly / A frame
Post by: Head Womble on July 03, 2014, 10:22:34 PM
It's a gray area,
as a trailer it's over the 500kg limit for being unbreaked,
breaked trailers have to by law have a 50/50 break distribution between axles (cars are closer to 70/30 I believe).

To run it as a breaked trailer it needs to have an overrun hitch that connects to a cable operated unit that presses on the break peddle of the car (shill not a 50/50 split).

So they cannot be classed as a trailer.

If you have someone in the car doing the breaking the car must be taxed, MOT'd and insured.

Tomorrow I'll point you in the right direction as to who you should ask.

Julian, I believe RV's come under commercials so have a higher unbreaked towing limit, this is why the cars are always small micro cars.
Title: Re: Towing dolly / A frame
Post by: Rotary-Motion on July 03, 2014, 11:02:25 PM
yeah was gonna ask Julian...

heheheh
Title: Re: Towing dolly / A frame
Post by: Julian on July 03, 2014, 11:07:23 PM
yeah was gonna ask Julian...

heheheh

Out of the three available, do you mean me?  If so don't do it ... I know bugger all about bugger all.
Title: Re: Towing dolly / A frame
Post by: knighty on July 03, 2014, 11:55:05 PM
you can use an A frame for recovery, but only to get you to somewhere safe

you're not allowed to use them to 'transport' a car (unless it's being recovered)

and the car on the back has to have full mot/insurance etc..