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Biodiesel => Biodiesel equipment => Topic started by: Julian on April 26, 2014, 10:30:12 PM
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Printing a non-glug pourer for a 20 ltr tin (I know, I need to get out more)
(http://www.palmergroup.co.uk/3D/Non glug/Non glug rejects.jpg)
Quite a few rejects before the ring would clip into the tin.
(http://www.palmergroup.co.uk/3D/Non glug/Non glug pipe.jpg)
Printing the pipe ... (processor coming next)
(http://www.palmergroup.co.uk/3D/Non glug/Non glug assembled front.jpg)
Assembled parts from the front.
(http://www.palmergroup.co.uk/3D/Non glug/Non glug assembly back.jpg)
Assembled parts from the back.
No idea if it will work, if it does I think it might need some sort of spout to help it pour ... I'll find out tomorrow.
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good luck with that
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;D
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I like that. Very cool :)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX2TLFDY2Hc
sorry I must smile
:)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX2TLFDY2Hc
sorry I must smile
:)
You were my sole inspiration
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX2TLFDY2Hc
sorry I must smile
:)
You were my sole inspiration
im flattered thank you
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Awesome!!!! Did you buy the printer or build it. That is too cool.
Are the parts strong?
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It's not clear in the pictures but is that a chamfer with a recess grove? How easy is it to remove once the tin is empty.
It'll be interesting to see it in action with the weight of 20lts pressing on the back face.
I could find a use for one of those if ever I receive a tin of oil without stab holes in it 8)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX2TLFDY2Hc
sorry I must smile
:)
Ahem!
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Awesome!!!! Did you buy the printer or build it. That is too cool.
Are the parts strong?
Built it. All the parts are readily available, I made very little (although I have modified it quite a bit since first built), so no credit can be attributed to me. It's the guys who write the firm and software I think are awesome.
They can be very strong. You can adjust wall thickness and % fill and print several different plastics.
Flanges on this are generally 1.2mm thick to give a bit of flexibility.
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It's not clear in the pictures but is that a chamfer with a recess grove? How easy is it to remove once the tin is empty.
Yes, the shape replicates spouts that come with the tins, but I had to make adjustments because the PLA isn't as flexible as the original plastic.
It'll be interesting to see it in action with the weight of 20lts pressing on the back face.
Yes, it will be interesting, the last one I tried was a little too easy to remove, so I tweaked the dimensions a little. It won't have the full weight of the oil bearing on it as the pressure will be relieved by the pour.
I did consider attaching a piece of cord to retrieve it should it drop off, but I guess I should really have faith.
If it doesn't stay in place, I have a cunning plan for a design a bit like a rawplug, where a spout will push in and splay out some pawls inside the tin, fixing the assembly in place.
I could find a use for one of those if ever I receive a tin of oil without stab holes in it 8)
I have two or three suppliers who don't stab the tins, but the thought was that I might give one to the people who do in an attempt to stop them doing it. To that end some sort of closing device could be a good addition.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX2TLFDY2Hc
sorry I must smile
:)
Ahem!
Oh, God ... you were my sole inspiration too (that's two sole inspirers now).
Along with the very clever designer of the cubie (ever noticed that he handle does almost the same thing) and Jerry for his wonderful design of can during world war two, and the chap who designed the tap on my ASM and sulfuric acid drums. Not that using those was my idea, no Sir ... that was Jules's idea.
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That's fantastic! What an amazing tool.
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That's fantastic! What an amazing tool.
Loads about them on the web. Youtube and the RepRap wiki ... http://reprap.org/wiki/RepRap You need to persevere with their wiki, it's grown to be a real monster and very difficult to navigate.
I recon you could build one for about £180 - 200, now.
But yes, it's great fun to build and the buzz of drawing just about anything you can imagine and pressing a button to make it is still a revelation to me.
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Julian,
What does it actually print, and what do you buy it as? I mean is it a powder, or a paste, granules, or what?
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Commonly available is PLA and ABS, but Nylon and most other thermoplastics are possible. It comes as 3mm or 1.75mm dia filament on reels in various colours, a bit like strimmer line.
I'd like to recycle cubies, what a great way of disposing of them. To this end I've been playing a little ...
(http://www.palmergroup.co.uk/3D/shredder mockup.jpg)
Several designs of extruder have been made using wood auger bits.
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is this a shredder Julian?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX2TLFDY2Hc
sorry I must smile
:)
Ahem!
Oh, God ... you were my sole inspiration too (that's two sole inspirers now).
Along with the very clever designer of the cubie (ever noticed that he handle does almost the same thing) and Jerry for his wonderful design of can during world war two, and the chap who designed the tap on my ASM and sulfuric acid drums. Not that using those was my idea, no Sir ... that was Jules's idea.
It didn't come from any of them, it came from a red wine pourer down the local pub, it stops the sediment been disturbed, what is most disappointing is the fact that with your well known love of red wine you didn't come up with it first although i suppose wine boxes don't need them ;D
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is this a shredder Julian?
A mock-up for one, yes.
Categorically not my design I hasten to add. Have a look on youtube, big version eat just about anything. This design will eat tyres and a slightly different design will eat cylinder blocks!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX2TLFDY2Hc
sorry I must smile
:)
Ahem!
Oh, God ... you were my sole inspiration too (that's two sole inspirers now).
Along with the very clever designer of the cubie (ever noticed that he handle does almost the same thing) and Jerry for his wonderful design of can during world war two, and the chap who designed the tap on my ASM and sulfuric acid drums. Not that using those was my idea, no Sir ... that was Jules's idea.
It didn't come from any of them, it came from a red wine pourer down the local pub, it stops the sediment been disturbed, what is most disappointing is the fact that with your well known love of red wine you didn't come up with it first although i suppose wine boxes don't need them ;D
You get sediment in posh wine ... not the stuff I drink!
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J
What software are you using now?
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J
What software are you using now?
Still persevering with Sketchup. Still haven't forgotten I have yours sitting here.
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Hmm, wasn't a great success.
The last tweak, all be only 0.2mm, was a tweak too far and the part wouldn't fit the drum properly. Too much force split it but it wedged in sufficiently to give it a try.
The theory works well, no glugging and the oil comes out so fast that I think a spout and possibly a restrictor would be an advantage.
Looking like the Rawplug design may have to be investigated ... back to the keyboard as they never used to say.
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Boys ant their toys eh Julian. Impressive.
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Best toy I've had in ages ... dare I say better than a processor.
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Here is a video of a big version of your printed model.
We used to have one of these at South Crofty mine when I worked there and it would eat granite like it was chocolate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHGTw_GDYQ4
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Next week I shall mostly be building my Prusa i2 3d printer, thanks to Julian.
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Here is a video of a big version of your printed model.
We used to have one of these at South Crofty mine when I worked there and it would eat granite like it was chocolate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHGTw_GDYQ4
Nice bit of kit, but might upset the neighbours.
I picked up a pretty heavy duty shredder off freecycle yesterday ...
(http://www.palmergroup.co.uk/3D/Freecycle shredder.jpg)
It seems quite happy shredding the flat sides of plastic milk bottles, so I'll pull it appart and maybe see about shortening the length of the cutters, investigate changing the drive for a more powerful motor and gearbox and rearranging the feed slot for something you can stick bigger bits of plastic (and fingers in).
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Whilst posting about printing, here are a couple more failures in the non-glug drum saga ...
(http://www.palmergroup.co.uk/3D/Nonglug fail 1.jpg)
This one wasn't quite the right size and the hinges sections for the lugs weren't strong enough.
(http://www.palmergroup.co.uk/3D/Nonglug fail 2.JPG)
Much better design although very wasteful with a massive support, but the "grain" of the print ran across each finger and they snapped very easily. Might have been better to print it on it's side.
Live and learn I suppose. If I can ever get cubies recycled, the original design should work a treat.
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Oh, and I made some bio today with no emulsion!
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Next week I shall mostly be building my Prusa i2 3d printer, thanks to Julian.
Very tempted, what software are you planning to use?
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Next week I shall mostly be building my Prusa i2 3d printer, thanks to Julian.
Very tempted, what software are you planning to use?
Drawing wise I'm getting into sketch up, all other software will be as recommended on the build site.
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Oh, and I made some bio today with no emulsion!
Well done Julian.
What did you do differently this time ?
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He used gloss instead :)
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Emulsion = water based
Gloss = oil based
Bleedin' obvious innit though.
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Oh, and I made some bio today with no emulsion!
Well done Julian.
What did you do differently this time ?
I didn't make an emulsion last time either, boy I'm getting good at this bio lark.
As toungue in cheek as your remark was ... the only thing I'm being very cautious of is not letting Frankin pump run for any longer than necessary during the 7% wash.
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Next week I shall mostly be building my Prusa i2 3d printer, thanks to Julian.
Very tempted, what software are you planning to use?
Drawing wise I'm getting into sketch up, all other software will be as recommended on the build site.
As a bit of practise, you'll need to mount the Arduino on something. I fabricated (read ... cobbled together) something but if you want to print a more permanent mounting you could start with the attached file. I drew this to space an Arduion board off the table so you can play with it, but it could easily be adapted for fixing to the printer frame. I've mounted my electronics to the front right.
As the file opens, the right hand end will be the end with the power and USB connections.
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Oh, and I made some bio today with no emulsion!
Well done Julian.
What did you do differently this time ?
I didn't make an emulsion last time either, boy I'm getting good at this bio lark.
As toungue in cheek as your remark was ... the only thing I'm being very cautious of is not letting Frankin pump run for any longer than necessary during the 7% wash.
It was a genuine question, not tongue in cheek at all.
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Oh, and I made some bio today with no emulsion!
Well done Julian.
What did you do differently this time ?
I didn't make an emulsion last time either, boy I'm getting good at this bio lark.
As tongue in cheek as your remark was ... the only thing I'm being very cautious of is not letting Frankin pump run for any longer than necessary during the 7% wash.
It was a genuine question, not tongue in cheek at all.
Oh, sorry, my apologies.
Think I'm getting too used to people taking the mick!
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And tonight I mostly built my 3d printer frame.
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And tonight I mostly built my 3d printer frame.
which one did you get ? report back and let me know what it's like :-)
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And tonight I mostly built my 3d printer frame.
which one did you get ? report back and let me know what it's like :-)
I did GET anything, I'm scratch building with a little help from Julian.
Building a Prusa i2 and hopefully a CNC plasma cutting machine later.
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Is this machine something that you could bring to the BBB Julian?
I would love to see it working
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Is this machine something that you could bring to the BBB Julian?
I would love to see it working
It's just about portable, but I'd rather Jim brought his in case mine gets broken!
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Is this machine something that you could bring to the BBB Julian?
I would love to see it working
It's just about portable, but I'd rather Jim brought his in case mine gets broken!
So why is your's so fragile?