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General => Chatter => Topic started by: julianf on April 03, 2014, 11:33:55 AM
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The second of the two fire engines is still outside - im guessing it will leave in a moment.
So, we have had -
Environmental health here,
Then the Environment Agency,
Then the Police and some other council agency, whom i cant recall the name of.
Then, as a spin off, building control.
Now two fire engines.
Ahh, the second of which has just left.
This must drive my neighbor mad. Fancy calling all those people, and still you cant get someone 'done'.
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I'd be getting a solicitors letter to them threatening court action if he/she/they persist in harrasing me about pursuing a completely legal activity.
I told my neighbours exactly what I was doing, that it is legal and gave them ruling covering home brewing and the EA contact.
I did it because one of them is a nasty selfish inconsiderate spiteful bitch, if I hadn't I'd have gone through what you are now.
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What were they all called out for?
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The neighbour must be leaving herself open to some kind of legal action.
I'm guessing that the various different services can't tell you specifically who has called them out, but they know themselves.
Liike Jim said, get a solicitor to at least make a few threats. If the solicitor lodges a harassment case, then it's possible that the services will make it known who is calling them out. Also, they should be able to work between each service, to make the case.
Sorry for you mate.
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What were they all called out for?
Because she does not like where i park my trailer.
Of course, what she says on the phone varies, and, im sure, never mentions trailers! ; )
It used to be a problem - the first time we got a visit we were fearful that we might be doing something wrong, but the more you get into this stuff, the easier it is to make sure you're above board.
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no win no fee, comes to mind
The neighbour must be leaving herself open to some kind of legal action.
I'm guessing that the various different services can't tell you specifically who has called them out, but they know themselves.
Liike Jim said, get a solicitor to at least make a few threats. If the solicitor lodges a harassment case, then it's possible that the services will make it known who is calling them out. Also, they should be able to work between each service, to make the case.
Sorry for you mate.
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Got another one to add to the list now!
Contractor from Calorgas has just turned up. She called them after the fire brigade left!
Apparently all cylinders are owned by Calorgas, so it seems that ive chopped up one of their tanks. There was nothing on the outside of the tank even saying it was Calorgas, nor any mention of ownership.
Ill claim coercion -
(http://www.biopowered.co.uk/w/images/thumb/c/cc/Simple_fat_melting_tank.jpg/450px-Simple_fat_melting_tank.jpg)
; )
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I'd be surprised if ALL cylinders are owned by Calorgas.
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Neighbours getting involved what happens next door on private property is definitely one of the things wrong with this country - mind your own business! >:(
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Now that im in there, ive been calling up to see what happens next. Got one right aggressive chap - you would have thought all the things belonged to him personally.
Chap said that it was extremely dangerous. He was kind of on a hard sell, considering i was telling him id just done it, and we were talking on the phone....
Found this on calor's site -
"Calor has placed more than 10 million cylinders on to the British market with a replacement value of well over £200 million."
If my sums are right, that means each cylinder costs 'over' £20. If the number was £300 million, you would imagine that they would use the higher figure, so, we're talking over £20, under £30.
What's the deposit on these things? £39 i think. And still the 'own' them.
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I thought you'd posted that up as a joke! But if you are serious consider the following ...
Calour would have to prove that the cylinder is theirs, before they could take an further action. The word of an aggrieved neighbour probably wouldn't hold water legally.
To prove it's theirs they would need to inspect it and to do that they would need access to your property.
You of course deny them access as is your right ... I doubt they have any legal powers of entry.
From that point theres not really a lot they can do.
What would happen if some one dumped a gas bottle in your garden. It's the gas companies property, so you phone them up and ask them to remove it. Give them a week to do so and then charge them reasonable storage charges.
Would they come out and collect it? Be interesting to find out.
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Back tracking a little -
Chap came from the gas company. I could have refused him entry, however, i suspect that would have created a whole additional set of issues.
So, he came, he saw, he left. He was just a contracted inspector, and knew nothing of potential outcome.
From there, i called Calor's customer services.
They put me on to another department.
Who told me to call the local distributor. This was the aggressive chap who told me i would kill myself.
He asked me if i wanted to speak with their legal team, so i called them.
Bare in mind that, at this point, i was on the system anyhow, so its always better to take these things on, rather than let them come to you.
Called the legal people. Blah blah blah.. metal theft, people blowing themselves up, etc. The short of it being that ive now been told, there going to call off the hounds, and someone is coming to pick up the remnants tomorrow.
Im told even the water board are now on red alert, due to me tipping gas down the drain. (what my neighbor reported).
So, an entertaining morning. Nothing more will come of it, but im a cylinder down.
Yes, before anyone posts about "you shouldnt have let them in", ill re-itterate - i suspect that could have caused further issues. Maybe, maybe not, but either way, that was the path i took.
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What a bunch of retards.
Can you hide the gas bottle somewhere, or get it off the property?
When they turn up to collect it, look surprised and tell them they have already been.
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Not worth the bother.
Someone i know here has half a yard full of them - its not like i couldn't get another anyhow.
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and i thought i was being treated unfairly after being told to move my yurt to another part of the field and get rid of the coach and all my crap lying around it.!! within the next 6 months.
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Who told you that, bob?
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Who told you that, bob?
Eeeeer! Let me guess...............the owner?
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Read with interest your post. Would it be easier to offer calor a small amount of compensation for their cylinder which some how found its way into your possession, say scrap value, £2-3. It would be cheaper than them sending someone to pick it up and they still save face about it being their property. I still don't see how that works by the way cause once you've paid the deposit you can keep it as long as you like, indefinitely? So as long as it was intact they could never prove theft.
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Ooeer, sounds ominous.
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Wonder what is next mate ...
Ambulance service?
Mountain Rescue?
Coastguard?
She should think herself lucky she doesn't live next to me :)
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She should think herself lucky she doesn't live next to me :)
Or me, I'd make her life a misery after I'd thrown several fecks into her AND she wouldn't be the first I've had to put up with.
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She should think herself lucky she doesn't live next to me :)
Or me, I'd make her life a misery after I'd thrown several fecks into her AND she wouldn't be the first I've had to put up with.
Ah, but with you she'd have a genuine complaint due to the constant trumpeting.
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She should think herself lucky she doesn't live next to me :)
Or me, I'd make her life a misery after I'd thrown several fecks into her AND she wouldn't be the first I've had to put up with.
Ah, but with you she'd have a genuine complaint due to the constant trumpeting.
But it stops when I sleep, can't see what her problem is.
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Wonder what is next mate ...
Ambulance service?
Mountain Rescue?
Coastguard?
She should think herself lucky she doesn't live next to me :)
or me :)
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Who told you that, bob?
Eeeeer! Let me guess...............the owner?
therein lies the problem. the owner who lives 100 miles away doesn't care, his ex on the other hand who lives just down the road does. their kids are divided on the issue. hopefully it will blow over, but only if i clear up the crap lying around the coach. seems fair enough, just a bit messy in the way it was put to me. sledgehammer to crack a walnut in my opinion. she could have just asked me. but instead of that she involved all the family. talk about drama queens. still i get more space in a better part of the field, plus the coach is falling apart anyway. i would have had to do something about it soon anyway.
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At least you still got your space Bob,
some friends of ours who have been renting and living on a piece of land, got woken Tuesday morning by police and bailiffs as the house and land is being possessed by court/bailiff and they had until 5pm to get what they could of their Tipi's and possessions, the house/land owner knew nothing about it, and claims its somebody frauding his name on loans and using the house as collateral. My friends have built a strawbale roundhouse(with my help) compost loos, showers, sauna etc really good veg plots and it was all coming together nicely, now they are basically homeless.
http://wolfpawtipivillage.co.uk/
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That is alarming. It's a nightmare whichever way, but if someone has been frauding the owners name, that's a real nightmare.
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ohh i am extremely grateful for the opportunity to be allowed stay here. i know the owner likes me being here as having me here stops people just turning up and squatting the land. i have kicked a few people off over the years. i just need to work on my diplomatic skills when dealing with the ex who has a very large chip on her shoulder about the whole thing. your friends situation sounds horrible. i am in a very good position as both the owner and the council are happy i am here and i have a letter from the council planning department giving me permission to have the coach here. having spent years squatting i never get tooo comfortable.
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Ah, calor, so all you folks out who have a contract with calor which cost 35 pound please be seated. After 7 years the contract is void and you dont get yer money back if you return the unwanted cylinder.Even if you still have the paperwork.
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Contract may be void... so you dont get the cash back.
However, contract isnt void, as you dont get the cylinder either!
Calor wants to have their cake and eat it.
Plus the £39 you pay at the start of it all is, according to calor's own website, about 2x the cost of the cylinder anyway!
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Well in the last 6 months I've had both EA and the council round the only thing I had to do was bund my waste oil which I was going to do anyway,so I suppose I've got to look forward to the fire brigade but not calor ,maybe Mobil oil as I've a 205 litre drum with their name on
Neighbours don't you love them
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And this is what the wife doesn't understand when I try to play nice with our neighbours, even if some of the requests are a bit over the top.
The amount of hassle a p***ed off neighbour can cause is way more than I could be bothered with.