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Biodiesel => Vehicles => Topic started by: biobill on December 29, 2013, 12:27:09 PM
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good morning new to this bio lark was just wondering what cars and vans you have run on biodiesel and to what effect breakdowns ect
Admin edit: Link to resulting wiki page:
http://www.biopowered.co.uk/wiki/Members_vehicles_running_biodiesel_or_vegetable_oil
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Hi and welcome.
I can't speak for everyone but the majority seem to run Citroën/Peugeot or VolksWagon/Audi with the occasional Lawnrover thrown in.
What's this word "breakdown" you use.
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Hi and welcome.
I can't speak for everyone but the majority seem to run Citroën/Peugeot or Volkwagon/Audi with the occasional Lawnrover thrown in.
What's this word "breakdown" you use.
If you were an occasional Land Rover owner, you'd understand the meaning of breakdown.
And welcome to the wiki and forum, biobill.
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If you were an occasional Land Rover owner, you'd understand the meaning of breakdown.
I read your posts, that's why I'm not and never will be.
Jules spent most of the BBB under his so he could get back home.
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ML270 & Nissan juke
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2x 03/04 Passat Tdi 130 PD's
1x 08 Golf 1.9 TDi 105 PD
2x Peugeot 206 1.4 HDi's
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ML270 & Nissan juke
Get the spelling right for gawd sake, it's Piss'n Joke.
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Mitsi Delica
Skoda Octavia
Skoda Fabia
VW Golf
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2x MG ZR
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Peugeot Expert 2ltr HDI.
Richard
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Transit van, on veg and bio. Only problem is filters blocking, but that's not really the vans fault.
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1x Land Rover 300TDi
1x Toyota Land Cruiser '93 Vintage
1x Lawnmower
1x Lister CS
1x Oil fired boiler so old that the label's come off.
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406 2L HDI 90 (99)
306 2L HDI 90 (01)
C250TD (99)
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Transit van, on veg and bio. Only problem is filters blocking, but that's not really the vans fault.
x 2 :)
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Galaxy 1.9Tdi 110
Vw Autotrail 1.9Td
Peugeot 206 1.6Hdi 110
Clio 172 for trackdays.
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funny how the cheaper the fuel the more the cars...
I got 2 pug 406 / boxer, but im all about the veg only...
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99 plate nissan navara pick up
03 plate ldv convoy tipper
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Golf SDI
Passat PD130
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Discovery 300tdi
Landrover series 1, 2.25d
Fiat Doblo 1.9jtd.
All running on b100.
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1999 Land Cruiser Colorado 3.0TD
2000 Ford Fiesta 1800 TDDI
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2000 Discovery TD5
2003 Astra 1.7 crd
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1996 LandRover Discovery 300Tdi
1997 RangeRover P38 2.5DSE (2.5 6 cylinder diesel engne same as BMW 525TDS & Vauxhall Omega)
Lots of breakdowns and repairs on both but very few have been fuel related, The event Jim refers to at the BBB was the XYZ position switch on the side of the RangeRover's automatic gearbox falling to pieces just as I arrived.
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If you were an occasional Land Rover owner, you'd understand the meaning of breakdown.
I read your posts, that's why I'm not and never will be.
Jules spent most of the BBB under his so he could get back home.
That's the thing about Land Rovers and their devoted owners ... they might break down (the Land Rovers that is), but the mechanical calibre, ingenuity and resourcefulness of the owners usually means they get to where they are going.
Oh, and I run a 300 TDI Discovery with a heated filter and a PD Golf TDI (except winter months) on B100.
I think it's been done on the VOD before, but got lost in the mass of posts, but how about we start a wiki page listing members vehicles, any bio/veg related problems and the solutions to overcome them?
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2 X Ford Rangers 4x4
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Julian...why don't you run the golf on bio in the winter...or are you running some sort of blend?
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Julian...why don't you run the golf on bio in the winter...or are you running some sort of blend?
Before I put the heated filter on the current Disco, I spent several hours swabbing out the tank on the old Disco, two winters running. In sub zero temperatures it's a decidedly unpleasant task which I don't intend to repeat.
Now I've been water washing for a while and have bulk storage with top skimming outside, I may give it a bash next winter. Given the complexity of the PD fuel system I don't want to take any chances.
I've just pumped the last batch from the shed to the outside holding tank and low and behold there are little white ball (just a few) on the side of the settling tank.
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I think it's been done on the VOD before, but got lost in the mass of posts, but how about we start a wiki page listing members vehicles, any bio/veg related problems and the solutions to overcome them?
I think that's a good idea, may help others decide on what car to get next.
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I think it's been done on the VOD before, but got lost in the mass of posts, but how about we start a wiki page listing members vehicles, any bio/veg related problems and the solutions to overcome them?
I think that's a good idea, may help others decide on what car to get next.
Just a thought, maybe Land Rovers need their own section, we don't want all the other cars getting lost in page after page of lawn rovers.
We need a smiley of a man hiding for cover behind a wall.
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Just a thought, maybe Land Rovers need their own section, we don't want all the other cars getting lost in page after page of lawn rovers.
We need a smiley of a man hiding for cover behind a wall.
And a man sprawled out on the floor laughing hysterically smiley.
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I'll remember that comment next time you are down in Cornwall scrounging for some fuel for the way home Mark :)
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I'll remember that comment next time you are down in Cornwall scrounging for some fuel for the way home Mark :)
Err, well, umm, ahh, well, cough.
You yourself have said that they're not the most relyable of vehicles.
But I must say you also have a knack of fixing them.
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56 Vectra on about 25% bio until 1. I get my process perfected, and 2. I get a better idea of how much bio ends up in the engine oil after the dpf regenerates.
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1996 LandRover Discovery 300Tdi
1997 RangeRover P38 2.5DSE (2.5 6 cylinder diesel engne same as BMW 525TDS & Vauxhall Omega)
Lots of breakdowns and repairs on both but very few have been fuel related, The event Jim refers to at the BBB was the XYZ position switch on the side of the RangeRover's automatic gearbox falling to pieces just as I arrived.
As the person trying to find stuff amongst my junk to help Jules, I can testify to his patience and ingenuity in fixing the part, the sort of thing that's not really meant to come apart and full of springs and ball bearings type of job, and the same with taking a laptop apart and putting it all back together.
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Mitsi Delica here for 5+ years.
Started on veg/dino mix, then commercial bio (which was rubbish and damaged the injection pump, which I eventually replaced), then homebrew biodiesel. Fuel related failures have been filter blockages, air ingress, or melted pipes. No engine/combustion related problems at all.
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Made a start on the wiki page here ...http://www.biopowered.co.uk/wiki/Members_vehicles_running_biodiesel_or_vegetable_oil
Welcome any comments.
To save me ploughing through pages of html stuff, can anyone add the code to limit/regulate the width of the cells?
Would contributors to this thread mind completing the information required in the following between the td tags and either paste direct into the wiki page of post in this thread and I'm sure someone will add it to the page.
Try and keep the problems and cure sections concise and to the point.
Don't use this code ... see further on in this thread or look on the wiki page (format now sortable)
<tr>
<!--Make--> <td></td>
<!--Model--> <td></td>
<!--Year--> <td></td>
<!--Member--> <td></td>
<!--Fuel--> <td></td>
<!--Duration--> <td></td>
<!--Problems--> <td></td>
<!--Cures--> <td></td>
</tr>
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Good idea Julian.
I've added my vehicle, was painless enough.
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I think I've screwed it up...tried to remove it but messed that up as well...sorry. Help!
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Cannot rollback last edit of Members vehicles running biodiesel or vegetable oil by Nigelb (talk | contribs); someone else has edited or rolled back the page already.
The last edit to the page was by Julian (talk | contribs).
Hmm. That Julian is way ahead of me.
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Thanks. :-[
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I think I've screwed it up...tried to remove it but messed that up as well...sorry. Help!
I give up ... I ask you to do a simple ... (and breathe)
No problem Nige, I think you pasted in the middle of the header row. You can always roll back anything you've done on the wiki by going to history and clicking rollback next to your recent entry. I've just done that for you. Have another go but paste your contribution after the last able entry but before the category bumph at the bottom.
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Cannot rollback last edit of Members vehicles running biodiesel or vegetable oil by Nigelb (talk | contribs); someone else has edited or rolled back the page already.
The last edit to the page was by Julian (talk | contribs).
Hmm. That Julian is way ahead of me.
That'll be the day!
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Cannot rollback last edit of Members vehicles running biodiesel or vegetable oil by Nigelb (talk | contribs); someone else has edited or rolled back the page already.
The last edit to the page was by Julian (talk | contribs).
Hmm. That Julian is way ahead of me.
That'll be the day!
In all fairness I've already added the changes you just asked Nige to retry, so just this once I got a foot in the door first.
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Did you do anything to regulate the width of the cells? Your entry seems to have wrapped within the cells ... it didn't when I was setting it up?
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I didn't change anything, it must just like me.
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Oh, must be magic!
There's what I think is an overall width that I've just increased to 900 px, but after that I guess it must just sort itself out within the table. Gosh, computers are wonderful!
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"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke
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Julian...why don't you run the golf on bio in the winter...or are you running some sort of blend?
Before I put the heated filter on the current Disco, I spent several hours swabbing out the tank on the old Disco, two winters running. In sub zero temperatures it's a decidedly unpleasant task which I don't intend to repeat.
I once had to clean out the tank on my Disco and decided never again.
I have got through the last two winters without any problems by only using feedstock that stays liquid at low temps, water washing and then adding cold flow additive.
At least, on a disco there is a means of getting into the tank to clean it.
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If someone could add this for me, couldn't see how to add myself
<tr>
<!--Make--> <td>Seat</td>
<!--Model--> <td>Altea</td>
<!--Year--> <td>2004</td>
<!--Member--> <td>Bill</td>
<!--Fuel--> <td>B100</td>
<!--Duration--> <td>since July 2010</td>
<!--Problems--> <td>none</td>
<!--Cures--> <td>n/a</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<!--Make--> <td>Fiat</td>
<!--Model--> <td>Scudo</td>
<!--Year--> <td>2004</td>
<!--Member--> <td>Bill</td>
<!--Fuel--> <td>B100</td>
<!--Duration--> <td>since Mar 2010</td>
<!--Problems--> <td>Leak off pipe</td>
<!--Cures--> <td>Might not have been bio related. Replaced.</td>
</tr>
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I think I've screwed it up...tried to remove it but messed that up as well...sorry. Help!
I give up ... I ask you to do a simple ... (and breathe)
No problem Nige, I think you pasted in the middle of the header row. You can always roll back anything you've done on the wiki by going to history and clicking rollback next to your recent entry. I've just done that for you. Have another go but paste your contribution after the last able entry but before the category bumph at the bottom.
Huge thanks Julian. I'll have another go as I've 3 more entries to make. Remember you're dealing with a dumbass here ;D
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If someone could add this for me, couldn't see how to add myself
<tr>
<!--Make--> <td>Seat</td>
<!--Model--> <td>Altea</td>
<!--Year--> <td>2004</td>
<!--Member--> <td>Bill</td>
<!--Fuel--> <td>B100</td>
<!--Duration--> <td>since July 2010</td>
<!--Problems--> <td>none</td>
<!--Cures--> <td>n/a</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<!--Make--> <td>Fiat</td>
<!--Model--> <td>Scudo</td>
<!--Year--> <td>2004</td>
<!--Member--> <td>Bill</td>
<!--Fuel--> <td>B100</td>
<!--Duration--> <td>since Mar 2010</td>
<!--Problems--> <td>Leak off pipe</td>
<!--Cures--> <td>Might not have been bio related. Replaced.</td>
</tr>
Thanks Bill, that's done
To edit a wiki page, just click edit at the top of the page and you'll get a text box with the page content. There's plenty of info on editing wiki pages on both the wiki and forum, or post on here and one of us will always help.
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Would it be an idea to use mileage instead of time for period of use? It gives a more realistic overview of your experiences.
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Would it be an idea to use mileage instead of time for period of use? It gives a more realistic overview of your experiences.
Certainly would, good point. In my case it will take a lot of ferreting around to find the numbers though!
I'll alter the table later today to accommodate it.
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Ahhh I seeeee now how its done.
Just got another few inches up the learning curve.
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I've managed to make my entries now Julian. I can see where I went wrong.
Just an idea to keep the page "clean and viewer" friendly...would it be a good idea as the page grows to reorganise the data in block order ie Ford, VAG, Peugeot etc.
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Ahhh I seeeee now how its done.
Just got another few inches up the learning curve.
A few inches is the best a chap can hope for these days.
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I've managed to make my entries now Julian. I can see where I went wrong.
Just an idea to keep the page "clean and viewer" friendly...would it be a good idea as the page grows to reorganise the data in block order ie Ford, VAG, Peugeot etc.
I had similar thoughts when putting it together, but I just wanted to throw something up quick and easy to start with. The pages success will rely on people populating it which is often proves difficult.
I recently and found a wiki where the table will sort columns alphabetically when you click on the header, so that might be the way to go. It will make it easy for contributors to simply add entries at the bottom of the list, but offer the facility for viewers to sort into make, model, fuel type etc.
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Added mine. :o
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Well, I've managed to get a sortable table added to the bottom of the page, but it has a couple of problems ...
Jame's entry seems to mess up the last cell in that row, spacing within the cells seems a little unpredictable and if you try and sort on the year, it locks up.
Help! anyone able to see where I've cocked up, 'cos I'm dammed if I can?
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Well, I've managed to get a sortable table added to the bottom of the page, but it has a couple of problems ...
Jame's entry seems to mess up the last cell in that row, spacing within the cells seems a little unpredictable and if you try and sort on the year, it locks up.
Help! anyone able to see where I've cocked up, 'cos I'm dammed if I can?
Ah ha, sorted Very fussy this wiki thing!
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That table at the bottom of the page looks really good.
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Ok, I've transferred all the data to the sortable table.
Can those who have already filled it in check that my ant like brain has transferred all the data correctly please.
Also can people alter their mileage to start with a total, numerical figure I think it should be ok to qualify it with text, just so long as it starts with a number. That way the sort facility will make sense.
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Any futire additions to the list (let's hope there are many) can be added direct to the spare rows or this format filled in and pasted here for upload to the wiki by a willing member ...
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<!--Make-->|
<!--Model-->|
<!-- Year-->|
<!--Member-->|
<!--Fuel-->|
<!--Mileage-->|
<!--Problems-->|
<!--Cures-->|
Just add your data after each vertical line.
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Briggs and Stratton 6.0HP Petrol 2000 TheRecklessEngineer B100 5 years Needs propane to get it going. Clouds of white smoke until warm, then more white smoke. Frequent spark plug fouling. Contamination of lube oil Breathing mask. Addition of petrol helps with the smoke.
????????
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Briggs and Stratton 6.0HP Petrol 2000 TheRecklessEngineer B100 5 years Needs propane to get it going. Clouds of white smoke until warm, then more white smoke. Frequent spark plug fouling. Contamination of lube oil Breathing mask. Addition of petrol helps with the smoke.
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An explanation and especially some photos would be interesting!
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Added mine
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Willbuild. peugoet partner 1.9d 2006 9000 miles on b100. no problems ( touch wood)
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Done
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Just added mine
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Briggs and Stratton 6.0HP Petrol 2000 TheRecklessEngineer B100 5 years Needs propane to get it going. Clouds of white smoke until warm, then more white smoke. Frequent spark plug fouling. Contamination of lube oil Breathing mask. Addition of petrol helps with the smoke.
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An explanation and especially some photos would be interesting!
its in the list a petrol engine running on bio
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Yes, that's a tortured lawnmower of mine. I'll get a video next time I get it out of the shed.
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Briggs and Stratton 6.0HP Petrol 2000 TheRecklessEngineer B100 5 years Needs propane to get it going. Clouds of white smoke until warm, then more white smoke. Frequent spark plug fouling. Contamination of lube oil Breathing mask. Addition of petrol helps with the smoke.
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An explanation and especially some photos would be interesting!
Low compression petrol engines will run on diesel/Bio, as a teenager I had a Triumph Tigress 250cc scooter which had 6/1 compression, I used to nick some of dads heating oil and add it to the petrol, a pig to start if you added too much and plenty of white smoke especially on overrun but did get me to the next months pay. lol
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Done
thank you
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I've added my cars, but it's not formated properly, can someone sort this out please.
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I think a modifications section needs to be added so we can tell the whole story.
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I've added my cars, but it's not formated properly, can someone sort this out please.
Have you met Nige?
You really must keep up, Mark. The table changed it's format from html to be a searchable wiki format.
You should have used this format ...
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<!--Make-->|
<!--Model-->|
<!-- Year-->|
<!--Member-->|
<!--Fuel-->|
<!--Mileage-->|
<!--Problems-->|
<!--Cures-->|
I'll delete the old html post so other silly bastar people don't do the same.
With the new format, just stick your data after each vertical line and make sure that the vertical line and dash (|-) are between each set of data.
If you want to copy the data to repopulate the new format, I'll leave it in place for an hour or two before correcting it so you can insert the new stuff.
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I think a modifications section needs to be added so we can tell the whole story.
Good point but the table might start getting a bit cramped with too many columns ... how bout I make the "Cures" column "Cures/modifications"?
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I think a modifications section needs to be added so we can tell the whole story.
Good point but the table might start getting a bit cramped with too many columns ... how bout I make the "Cures" column "Cures/modifications"?
Works for me as thats where I've put it allready.
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I've added my cars, but it's not formated properly, can someone sort this out please.
Have you met Nige?
You really must keep up, Mark. The table changed it's format from html to be a searchable wiki format.
You should have used this format ...
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<!--Make-->|
<!--Model-->|
<!-- Year-->|
<!--Member-->|
<!--Fuel-->|
<!--Mileage-->|
<!--Problems-->|
<!--Cures-->|
I'll delete the old html post so other silly bastar people don't do the same.
With the new format, just stick your data after each vertical line and make sure that the vertical line and dash (|-) are between each set of data.
If you want to copy the data to repopulate the new format, I'll leave it in place for an hour or two before correcting it so you can insert the new stuff.
All done, and I've never worked behind a bar in my life.
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Well done. I'd just done all three entries off line, and noticed that you'd done it when I went to paste them in ... doh!
Mind if I tidy up a couple of things on yours and other entries to make sense of the sorting facility? 6K will not sort the same as 6000 etc.
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Hmm, interesting. Mileage sorting seems only to operate on the first number, so 6,000 is placed above10,000. Strange!
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Well done. I'd just done all three entries off line, and noticed that you'd done it when I went to paste them in ... doh!
Mind if I tidy up a couple of things on yours and other entries to make sense of the sorting facility? 6K will not sort the same as 6000 etc.
Not at all, you may even find some spelling mistakes.
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Got to say, this page is looking great. Very useful to see in one place what everyone is running and their experiences.
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Would it be worth mailing all members requesting that they add their vehicles details (I'm happy to do it)? I think it can be done in the newsletters section.
I'm sure not all will oblige, but the more information we can add to the page the more useful it will become.
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Would it be worth mailing all members requesting that they add their vehicles details (I'm happy to do it)? I think it can be done in the newsletters section.
I'm sure not all will oblige, but the more information we can add to the page the more useful it will become.
Yes, please do so, that's a great idea :)
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Done ... I hope!
Did it work? I'm not the computer that receives my email.
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Yes, received fine here :)
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Glad it appeared to work, that said I didn't receive a copy!
I'm guessing it's clever enought to know I sent the message and omit me ... feeling a little left out though!
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Get mine.
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Get mine.
Are you using the wrong tense or just coming on to me?
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i got it also
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I didnt
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I didnt
Are you really surprised?
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I didnt
Me neither, but I suppose that just backs up Jim's comment.
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Well I tried my best, I had it sending to all groups.
I'm not really sure how you could test it beforehand or check who didn't receive a mail, proving a negative is a little tricky!
I know mine is but is the email address under which you registered still current?
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I know a Head Womble who's email isn't current.
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Ah, just sussed out a couple of possible reasons ...
There's an "Allow users to email me" option.
And there's a "receive newsletters option" that needs to be ticked.
Additionally since we moved servers, I haven't been receiving email notifications of new PMs.
There was an option to ignore preferences when sending newsletters, so at the risk of pissing people off (one of my areas of excellence), I may give it a second go.
To that end could someone send me the text they received in the email as there appears to be no record kept of what was sent.
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I've sent you an e-mail forwarding my message as an attachment.
I got it twice, but that's because I have this account and a test account with standard permissions.
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I've sent you an e-mail forwarding my message as an attachment.
I got it twice, but that's because I have this account and a test account with standard permissions.
Thanks Tony.
I got your mail but I couldn't open the attachment for some reason. Can you paste the message into the body of a mail please?
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Done.
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Thanks, I've just resent the newsletter, it took quite a long while to execute the instruction and appeared to stop 63% way through the process, but after a little rest, carried on.
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I still haven't received an email from me!
Anyone else not received the second mail?
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I still haven't received an email from me!
Anyone else not received the second mail?
Me, email is current and its not in spam, i blame the Jim!
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I've got three. However, i have ticked the box in profile, under notifications, that allows E mails from admin.
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I got 2. my allow box is also ticked.
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My box is ticked ;)
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My box is ticked ;)
Please let's not start discussing your box.
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I know a Head Womble who's email isn't current.
The Email addess on this site works fine, it's the one on my oil collection web site that's wrong.
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found a small typo
corrected in list box now
;)
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Added mine, great page.
I'm having electrical niggles with my Golf, gets me thinking about buying a new car and looking at the page gives me some ideas.
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Can someone add up my car to the WIKI or grant access for me to do it please?
2002 VW Passat 1.9TDi 130 (PD) - B100 - 8k since 08/13
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I've done both, so you should be able to edit it to make any changes to your new entry.
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Cheers Tony
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just purchased vw polo gt. 1.9 borra engine 72k miles? checked other users on the page before hand found info very useful.
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just purchased vw polo gt. 1.9 borra engine 72k miles? checked other users on the page before hand found info very useful.
Nice to get feed back, glad the page helped. Would be nice to see a few more members add their cars ... the more the better.
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just purchased vw polo gt. 1.9 borra engine 72k miles? checked other users on the page before hand found info very useful.
Nice :) What year is it?
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2004 full vw service. They wont be seeing it again ;D
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Any chance you can put a link to the wiki page right at the beginning of the thread?
Every time I want to look at it I have to search through the different pages to find it. Then since my brain is going with age I forget to bookmark it and forget which page I found it on! So have to do the same again next time :-[
Thanks
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Same here. Good idea, I've added a link in the first post.
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Cheers my brain can rest easy now ;D
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It is listed in the wiki index on the home page!
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Just bought 1994 merc 250d auto, no turbo very sluggish. My car 300td estate 96000 on bio,problem at beginning ip went bad bio?
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1991 Renault Dodge 50, 7 1/2 ton recovery truck and 1998 Merc C250TD. Both 100% bio.
Have to change Dodge fuel filter once a year which only does about 1k miles yet Merc can do 12k miles with no filter problems. Merc makes up for it by blowing off diesel return lines occasionally [despite it being low pressure and me changing them to Viton with clips to hold down].