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General => Chatter => Topic started by: Head Womble on December 14, 2013, 09:43:15 PM
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http://www.channel4.com/programmes/psychopath-night
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I'm 30%, my missus is 40%. Interesting set of questions!
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I'm 93% and I did away with the wife years ago ;)
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I'm 53%, my wife 24%, my daughter 79%, my son 73%.
My wife and I are moving to another country and not telling the kids.
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I've just watched the channel 4 program with my son.
I could see from some of the kids who were in his primary school intake as to who were the ones to avoid.
I watched the Leicester v Burnley game today with a parent of one of my lads intake year. While his dad is considered normal, by some,..I would not ordinarily associate with him. His son is a real nasty bastard who is not to be trusted. In future years I will refer to this post when his name appears in the the local and national press when his criminal career become promenent.
At the moment I'll just use his first name....Sam.
I believe he has psycopathic tendencies.........watch this space.
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I didn't need to take that test, these things are something of a hobby of mine. I love the way the mind works, and more so, the way other peoples minds work. (That test is just scratching the surface to see how deep the ice is)
Psychotic tendencys are not exclusively negative, it's a choice. The same mental functions that lead to terrible things can be harnessed to lead to great things. The only thing separating a master criminal from a master businessman, or a hero dare devil from a psychotic lunatic, is the side of the law they are on.
79%
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having met a few times Andrew...where do I stand? Answer in a pm please ;)
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having met a few times Andrew...where do I stand? Answer in a pm please ;)
Now there's a question.
My being interested in what makes others tick, is largely due to the fact that I find it so difficult to do so.
The test ain't that great anyway, because it does not say at which point in the spectrum a high or low score is. Is 50% normal, or 0% normal? It's a bit of a how long is a piece of string type test.
The lack of empathy that is typically associated with being high on the psychopathy spectrum, is (IMHO) largely due to being unable to "read" people.
I (probably) won't start trying to skin you, because I find you trapped under something heavy, but at the same time, my first instinct will not be to try and and un trap you. I'm more likely to wonder how you became trapped. Obviously, I'm not that daft that I'm going to walk away and leave you there, but, unlike someone for whom empathy is a natural emotion, I will untrap you, totally oblivious to your wails of agony. They won't distract me at all, They won't even register with me. Neither will your heartfelt thanks when you finally crawl away. I'll give my best attempt at freeing you, because that is the "right" thing to do.
That's putting it a little strongly, but my mind works on logic and action, not emotion. It's a spectrum, it's not absolute, I feel bad about running over bunnys when I could have missed them. I'm quite happy to shoot them........
Based on the (tiny) bit I (think) I know about you, and the fact that you asked, I would say you score.......
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...why thankyou very much. Not sure if that figure is good or bad but thanks anyway.. 8)
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I've just taken the test highlighted in wombles opening post. I scored 30%.
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70%
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I'm 61% Psychopath.
According to the website : "Though your conscience is in the right place you also have a pragmatic streak and generally aren’t afraid to do your own dirty work! You’re no shrinking violet - but no daredevil either. You generally have little trouble seeing things from another person’s perspective but, at the same time, are no pushover. ‘Everything in moderation – including moderation’ might sum up your approach to life."
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I watched the program aswell and did the test twice, once last night to which I got 27 score under the influences of legal and illegal substances. and again this morning sober, again 27 score...
You are warm and empathic with a heightened awareness of social responsibility and a strong sense of conscience. You like to carefully weigh up the pros and cons of a situation before you act and are generally averse to taking risks. You are very much a ‘people person’ and dislike conflict. ‘Do unto others…’ are your watchwords. But, although you avoid hurting others, those residing at the higher end of the psychopathic spectrum might not be as considerate, so stay vigilant to avoid being hurt unnecessarily.
I will be staying away from all you lot above!
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having met a few times Andrew...where do I stand? Answer in a pm please ;)
Now there's a question.
My being interested in what makes others tick, is largely due to the fact that I find it so difficult to do so.
The test ain't that great anyway, because it does not say at which point in the spectrum a high or low score is. Is 50% normal, or 0% normal? It's a bit of a how long is a piece of string type test.
The lack of empathy that is typically associated with being high on the psychopathy spectrum, is (IMHO) largely due to being unable to "read" people.
I (probably) won't start trying to skin you, because I find you trapped under something heavy, but at the same time, my first instinct will not be to try and and un trap you. I'm more likely to wonder how you became trapped. Obviously, I'm not that daft that I'm going to walk away and leave you there, but, unlike someone for whom empathy is a natural emotion, I will untrap you, totally oblivious to your wails of agony. They won't distract me at all, They won't even register with me. Neither will your heartfelt thanks when you finally crawl away. I'll give my best attempt at freeing you, because that is the "right" thing to do.
That's putting it a little strongly, but my mind works on logic and action, not emotion. It's a spectrum, it's not absolute, I feel bad about running over bunnys when I could have missed them. I'm quite happy to shoot them........
Totally agree with all of the above. I think that's just being male though isn't it? Not reading people (especially women!), finding it interesting how people managed to do stupid things to themselves or the unintended consequences actions. But generally doing what is the right thing to help them, possibly after mocking them for being so daft in the first place?
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45% Hmmmmm.
"Though your conscience is in the right place you also have a pragmatic streak and generally aren't afraid to do your own dirty work! You’re no shrinking violet - but no daredevil either. You generally have little trouble seeing things from another person’s perspective but, at the same time, are no pushover. ‘Everything in moderation – including moderation’ might sum up your approach to life."
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64% for me.
Reckons I'm no shrinking violet, dunno where that came ffrom.
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70%...seems about right!
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having met a few times Andrew...where do I stand? Answer in a pm please ;)
Totally agree with all of the above. I think that's just being male though isn't it? Not reading people (especially women!), finding it interesting how people managed to do stupid things to themselves or the unintended consequences actions. But generally doing what is the right thing to help them, possibly after mocking them for being so daft in the first place?
Up to a certain point, yes, that would be male characteristics. But there is more to it than that. Not being able to read people stands at odds with an ability to manipulate people. And not being affected by other peoples pain or terror is more than just not reading them.
A dangerous psychopath does not control his fear or revulsion, he doesn't feel it, neither does a non dangerous psychopath.
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70%
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I watched the program aswell and did the test twice, once last night to which I got 27 score under the influences of legal and illegal substances. and again this morning sober, again 27 score...
I will be staying away from all you lot above!
I was a bit more than slightly drunk when I did the test last night aswell. 76% this morning.
You can play hardball with the best of them! You know what you want and are not afraid to go for it – even if it means bending the rules occasionally and putting a few noses out of joint on the way. Nothing fazes you. You are decisive, self-confident and pretty much up for anything. You are a ‘means-to-an-end’ person. For you, it’s not necessarily a matter of right or wrong, but of what gets the job done. ‘Bring it on’ is your mantra, but to help those around you keep their heads, you should learn some tricks to help you temper your self-satisfying tendencies...
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I watched the program aswell and did the test twice, once last night to which I got 27 score under the influences of legal and illegal substances. and again this morning sober, again 27 score...
You're a man after my own heart, we've got to watch ourselves around these psychopathic piranhas!
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36% thats ok then you can safely come round for tea. but stay away from my oil.
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Tumble a little further down the rabbit hole.
What's your MBTI type.
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp
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Tumble a little further down the rabbit hole.
What's your MBTI type.
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp
Apparently:
Humanmetrics Jung Typology Test™
Your Type ENTJ
Extravert(11%) iNtuitive(25%) Thinking(12%) Judging(22%)
You have slight preference of Extraversion over Introversion (11%)
You have moderate preference of Intuition over Sensing (25%)
You have slight preference of Thinking over Feeling (12%)
You have slight preference of Judging over Perceiving (22%)
It looks like I'm a little down the middle.
Question is, what did you score? :)
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Question is, what did you score? :)
Tell you later. ;D
So does this ring true to you?
http://www.personalitypage.com/ENTJ.html
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Question is, what did you score? :)
Tell you later. ;D
So does this ring true to you?
http://www.personalitypage.com/ENTJ.html
Elements of it. I would say that describes an extreme form of me, of which I display some traits rather than full subscription.
http://typelogic.com/entj.html is a little closer to the mark.
In my family I'm the deterministic, logically driven end of the spectrum and my wife is the polar opposite - very much driven my emotion. Our teen daughter, who is undoubtedly one of the loveliest human beings I have a privilege of knowing, has a confusing balance of both - in that she'll have some powerful emotions and then be very annoyed with them from an analytical perspective.
At work I have a leadership position which causes some internal conflict, because I enjoy being a mentor but I also detest the way some people in power behave just to further themselves and their ego. And I tend to roll with the group rather than lead. I guess I would prefer the word "steering" rather than "leading". I completely agree with Douglas Adams - "It is a well known fact, that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. Anyone who is capable of getting themselves into a position of power should on no account be allowed to do the job."
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The typelogic descriptions do seem a little more human that the mathematical Myers briggs descriptions.
INTJ
Introvert(67%) iNtuitive(50%) Thinking(88%) Judging(11%)
You have distinctive preference of Introversion over Extraversion (67%)
You have moderate preference of Intuition over Sensing (50%)
You have strong preference of Thinking over Feeling (88%)
You have slight preference of Judging over Perceiving (11%)
I find quite a lot of it scarily accurate.
The thing to remember is, that although it may be one's inclination, it does not mean that it dictates the way one acts. There is still a choice to overcome or develop certain characteristics.
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There's no way I would describe you as introvert though, you were perfectly happy at the BBB chatting away to people you barely knew both years.
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There's no way I would describe you as introvert though, you were perfectly happy at the BBB chatting away to people you barely knew both years.
But that is learned behaviour.
Even the biggest extrovert could be completely socially inept, and on the same token, an introvert can learn very sophisticated social skills, if they choose to do so.
Part of the reason I can and do engage complete strangers in conversation is confidence and curiosity, and a concious effort to overcome my natural inclinations, of remaining aloof and distant. Letting those inclinations manifest themselves would be detrimental to me.
It's about ones inclination, not what one does. An extrovert thrives on human contact, and the more they get, the better they feel. If they were to lock themselves away for days on end, they would experience an amount of discomfort in some way, where as to me, long periods of solitude are essential to my wellbeing. I thrive on it.
A small crowd, I can deal with, for a while, but the hightend state of awareness that I require to function in that environment leaves me exhausted. I cannot understand how going into a crowded pub can relax people at the end of a week. That just makes me ill. I just withdraw.
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As some of you posted the full results of the test here is mine
Though your conscience is in the right place you also have a pragmatic streak and generally aren’t afraid to do your own dirty work! You’re no shrinking violet - but no daredevil either. You generally have little trouble seeing things from another person’s perspective but, at the same time, are no pushover. ‘Everything in moderation – including moderation’ might sum up your approach to life.
I'm now off to do the test GM posted.
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INTJ
Introvert(44%) iNtuitive(38%) Thinking(75%) Judging(1%)
•You have moderate preference of Introversion over Extraversion (44%)
•You have moderate preference of Intuition over Sensing (38%)
•You have distinctive preference of Thinking over Feeling (75%)
•You have marginal or no preference of Judging over Perceiving (1%)
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There's no way I would describe you as introvert though, you were perfectly happy at the BBB chatting away to people you barely knew both years.
We may not have met everyone that attends the BBB's in person before hand, but we do all have common interests and thanks to the forums have had conversations with most of them.
So nun are compleat strangers, strange yes, but strangers no.
Also there is never a crowded feeling at the BBB, you can and do move from one gathering to another at your own will.
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INTJ
Introvert(44%) iNtuitive(38%) Thinking(75%) Judging(1%)
•You have moderate preference of Introversion over Extraversion (44%)
•You have moderate preference of Intuition over Sensing (38%)
•You have distinctive preference of Thinking over Feeling (75%)
•You have marginal or no preference of Judging over Perceiving (1%)
Ah, another 2%er.
I wouldn't mind betting that most on here would be xNTx. Its the sort of hobby that is going to attract those types, and needs that sort of make up.
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What do you mean "another 2%er" I thought you got 22% in that part.
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Only around 2% of Men test as INTJ. Less than 1% of Women, so they say.
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Running through it again during my sleepless morning I score INTJ. I don't know what I answered differently so went through again and scored the same despite tweeks. Curious. The I is borderline but NTJ seems consistent.
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Baring in mind, a professionally conducted MBTI assessment takes a day with trained examiner, and the report can run to over 50 pages, so a 60 question internet test is not going to be accurate to within 10%. It's very much a rough guide, particularly with small percentages in favour of certain traits.
Try the test again in six months time, and see what happens.
I've been interested in MBTI for about 5 years and have re run the test maybe ten times. It gave borderline INTP once, which is understandable, given my weak preference towards J. The stronger preferences never vary by much more than 5%.
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INTP
Introvert(33%) iNtuitive(75%) Thinking(38%) Perceiving(22)%
You have moderate preference of Introversion over Extraversion (33%)
You have distinctive preference of Intuition over Sensing (75%)
You have moderate preference of Thinking over Feeling (38%)
You have slight preference of Perceiving over Judging (22%)
...not that any of it really means anything to me!
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There's no way I would describe you as introvert though, you were perfectly happy at the BBB chatting away to people you barely knew both years.
But that is learned behaviour.
Even the biggest extrovert could be completely socially inept, and on the same token, an introvert can learn very sophisticated social skills, if they choose to do so.
Part of the reason I can and do engage complete strangers in conversation is confidence and curiosity, and a concious effort to overcome my natural inclinations, of remaining aloof and distant. Letting those inclinations manifest themselves would be detrimental to me.
It's about ones inclination, not what one does. An extrovert thrives on human contact, and the more they get, the better they feel. If they were to lock themselves away for days on end, they would experience an amount of discomfort in some way, where as to me, long periods of solitude are essential to my wellbeing. I thrive on it.
A small crowd, I can deal with, for a while, but the hightend state of awareness that I require to function in that environment leaves me exhausted. I cannot understand how going into a crowded pub can relax people at the end of a week. That just makes me ill. I just withdraw.
interesting, i tend to sit in the corner in pubs with a wall behind me. this is learned behaveure from years of working and frequenting rough pubs in birmingham. dont like sitting with my back to the door as ypu never know who will come barging in. of course most of the time nothing is going to happen. but my drunken pillock detector is always on. i sometimes get called aloof and distant,usually by insecure people who have to need to be noticed by everyone. i am not i just tend to talk to the mote interesting people arouind me, rather than the passing the time of day type.
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like julian f i got inpt. doesnt tell me much either. wonder if there is a test for the desire to do quick unsupervised internet personallity tests?
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INTJ
Introvert(67%) iNtuitive(12%) Thinking(38%) Judging(44%)
You have distinctive preference of Introversion over Extraversion (67%)
You have slight preference of Intuition over Sensing (12%)
You have moderate preference of Thinking over Feeling (38%)
You have moderate preference of Judging over Perceiving (44%)
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Did the test again now I'm fully awake. INTJ again.
Looks like we are in similar company here.
My company's HR department do psychometric profiling of graduates before we get to see them for interview. I have some reservations against formulaic assessment of people, but I'm increasingly surprised about how their summaries of the candidates consistently align with our own by the more traditional face to face methods.
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like julian f i got inpt. doesnt tell me much either. wonder if there is a test for the desire to do quick unsupervised internet personallity tests?
The test was devised long before the internet. It's a small part of the full test. The full test has a lot more questions, relating to each of those questions.
It was fist devised at the end of the 1940s, but only became mainstream in the late '50s, when the US military started using it to determine the best positions and training methods for their recruits. Since then it has been used by business as well.
Now it's considered somewhat old fashioned and clunky, and expensive to carry out, and has been replaced by psychometric testing, although the US military still use it.
Least ways, that's what I understand of it.
The figures alone won't make any sense, with out some understanding of what they represent, some of which is here,
http://typelogic.com/entj.html
Be sure to click on your type. That page is ENTJ.
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Did the test again now I'm fully awake. INTJ again.
Looks like we are in similar company here.
My company's HR department do psychometric profiling of graduates before we get to see them for interview. I have some reservations against formulaic assessment of people, but I'm increasingly surprised about how their summaries of the candidates consistently align with our own by the more traditional face to face methods.
When you consider that less than 2% of Men test as INTJ, and a slightly larger number test as INTP, then to have five people in row test like that is a statistical improbability of quite some magnitude.
It doesn't entirely surprise me, but it does, sort of........
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Did the test again now I'm fully awake. INTJ again.
Looks like we are in similar company here.
My company's HR department do psychometric profiling of graduates before we get to see them for interview. I have some reservations against formulaic assessment of people, but I'm increasingly surprised about how their summaries of the candidates consistently align with our own by the more traditional face to face methods.
When you consider that less than 2% of Men test as INTJ, and a slightly larger number test as INTP, then to have five people in row test like that is a statistical improbability of quite some magnitude.
It doesn't entirely surprise me, but it does, sort of........
Well it's often said that it takes a curtain type of person to do what we do.
How often have other referred to you as a nutter or weird for running veg/bio.
with this in mind I'm not that surprised we have a high number of 2%ers.
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Here's my results, make of it what you will.
Everyone seems to be an I, am I the only one with an E?
ENTJ
Extravert(22%) iNtuitive(75%) Thinking(25%) Judging(1%)
You have slight preference of Extraversion over Introversion (22%)
You have distinctive preference of Intuition over Sensing (75%)
You have moderate preference of Thinking over Feeling (25%)
You have marginal or no preference of Judging over Perceiving (1%)
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Here's my results, make of it what you will.
Everyone seems to be an I, am I the only one with an E?
ENTJ
Extravert(22%) iNtuitive(75%) Thinking(25%) Judging(1%)
You have slight preference of Extraversion over Introversion (22%)
You have distinctive preference of Intuition over Sensing (75%)
You have moderate preference of Thinking over Feeling (25%)
You have marginal or no preference of Judging over Perceiving (1%)
Well yes Jim you are more of an extrovert than a introvert..
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Here's my results, make of it what you will.
Everyone seems to be an I, am I the only one with an E?
ENTJ
Extravert(22%) iNtuitive(75%) Thinking(25%) Judging(1%)
You have slight preference of Extraversion over Introversion (22%)
You have distinctive preference of Intuition over Sensing (75%)
You have moderate preference of Thinking over Feeling (25%)
You have marginal or no preference of Judging over Perceiving (1%)
The J is borderline, so could as easily have been P. Not that it makes a huge amount of difference.
Does this make any sense to you.
http://typelogic.com/entj.html
Or this
http://typelogic.com/entp.html
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ME, Extravert, surely not.
You'll be accusing of blowing my own Trumpet next.
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The J is borderline, so could as easily have been P. Not that it makes a huge amount of difference.
Does this make any sense to you.
http://typelogic.com/entj.html
Or this
http://typelogic.com/entp.html
The first option does, a little too close for comfort.
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I've just read the description of INTJ.
Um, it's a little scary and way to close to not be true.
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Another one to throw into the mix:
http://similarminds.com/jung.html
This has me pegged as ENTP
Extroverted (E) 61.76% Introverted (I) 38.24%
Intuitive (N) 56.1% Sensing (S) 43.9%
Thinking (T) 76.47% Feeling (F) 23.53%
Perceiving (P) 60.98% Judging (J) 39.02%
Your type is: ENTP
ENTP - "Inventor". Enthusiastic interest in everything and always sensitive to possibilities. Non-conformist and innovative. 3.2% of the total population.
This one:
http://personality-testing.info/tests/JUNG.php
INTP
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I can't get the link to work, might be that my connection is slow.
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I can't get the link to work, might be that my connection is slow.
Sorry, posted wrong link - now corrected in the post to http://similarminds.com/jung.html
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I can't get the link to work, might be that my connection is slow.
Sorry, posted wrong link - now corrected in the post to http://similarminds.com/jung.html
don't understand it
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Nothings working. Connections gone to pot. Can hardly post.
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I can't get the link to work, might be that my connection is slow.
Works for me.
I came out as ISTJ.
The description is spot on in some ways but way off in others.
It said I'm likely to be deeply religious, in truth I don't believe a word of it, show me the proof, oh yes, there isn't any.
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Back online.
With the similarminds link, I get almost identical results to the MBTI.
Jung Test Results
Introverted (I) 67.65% Extroverted (E) 32.35%
Intuitive (N) 58.97% Sensing (S) 41.03%
Thinking (T) 81.82% Feeling (F) 18.18%
Perceiving (P) 50% Judging (J) 50%
Your type is: INTJ
INTJ - "Mastermind". Introverted intellectual with a preference for finding certainty. A builder of systems and the applier of theoretical models. 2.1% of total population.
*If you tied on any of the scales, the current algorithm just breaks the tie randomly so refresh the page to s
Look at the way the questions are phrased. It's somewhat misleading. The MBTI is about ones inclinations, not the way one acts. The similarminds questions are asking you how you act in a given situation, and asking you to rate that action on a scale, where as the MBTI questions ask you how you WOULD LIKE to act, or how you feel.
Because my T is so strong and I have very little F, I feel very little empathy with anyone, but have learned how to show empathy. If I answer the test questions on how I act, the test will give a high result for F, which is incorrect. I have nowhere near the strength of F that I display.
The same with I, I may come across as an E, but that is not my inclination.
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Back online.
With the similarminds link, I get almost identical results to the MBTI.
Jung Test Results
Introverted (I) 67.65% Extroverted (E) 32.35%
Intuitive (N) 58.97% Sensing (S) 41.03%
Thinking (T) 81.82% Feeling (F) 18.18%
Perceiving (P) 50% Judging (J) 50%
Your type is: INTJ
INTJ - "Mastermind". Introverted intellectual with a preference for finding certainty. A builder of systems and the applier of theoretical models. 2.1% of total population.
*If you tied on any of the scales, the current algorithm just breaks the tie randomly so refresh the page to s
Look at the way the questions are phrased. It's somewhat misleading. The MBTI is about ones inclinations, not the way one acts. The similarminds questions are asking you how you act in a given situation, and asking you to rate that action on a scale, where as the MBTI questions ask you how you WOULD LIKE to act, or how you feel.
Because my T is so strong and I have very little F, I feel very little empathy with anyone, but have learned how to show empathy. If I answer the test questions on how I act, the test will give a high result for F, which is incorrect. I have nowhere near the strength of F that I display.
The same with I, I may come across as an E, but that is not my inclination.
Ah now that makes more sense.
I would say that I'm INTJ by makeup but would like to portray ENTP/ENTJ to the outside world.
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i knew there was something bugging me about this ,or in fact any test for psycophathic tendencies. firstly if a psycophath were to do one of these tests they would have a very low score,not a high one. this ,from what i have read and experianced from 2 encounters with known psychopaths is that they have no concept of correct behavour so overcompensate in order to "fit in". therefore if in the unlikely event that they would risk exposing thereselves to scrutiny by thier peer group by participating in an internet quiz to detect psycopaths they would score low as they would precieve that to be the correct thng to do. this"fitting in" tendency is why people are surprized to find the nice chap from down the road who always smiles and says hello, turns out to be the butcher who disbemembered the vicars wife and all the local cats. 27% or dear. better shut up before....... meooowwwww. got to go and deol with something. ;D
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And, the traits of psychopathy alone, do not make a person a psychopath. It's the abnormal neural pathways that make a person psychotic. Someone displaying strong traits with normal neural pathways can re learn their behaviour, a psychopath cannot.
Poor puddy tat........
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I took a funny psychopath test from this http://illnessquiz.com/psychopath-test/
I got 67 but in antisocial screening i am getting very low. so these tests need to be updated