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Oil Feedstock => Oil coarse filtering, settling, drying and storage => Topic started by: zatawitono on December 03, 2013, 07:08:28 PM

Title: drywashing
Post by: zatawitono on December 03, 2013, 07:08:28 PM
sorry , before i was wronged post ..

i want build a gravitation drywash tower with 6inch pvc pipe . what should i prepare for inside the tower ?
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: greasemonkey on December 03, 2013, 07:16:01 PM
Take a look at this, from the Wiki.
http://www.biopowered.co.uk/wiki/Dry_washing
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: zatawitono on December 03, 2013, 08:32:41 PM
but any size of hardwood sawdust put inside tower ?
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: greasemonkey on December 03, 2013, 08:46:37 PM
I don't really know much about it. I think you need to use shavings rather than sawdust. The sort of thing that comes out of a plain. Sawdust will just block up, your wanting to get as much surface area of wood as you can.
The way I understand it, there are better ways  of achieving what a drywash tower does. Someone else will have to tell you that though.
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: Tony on December 03, 2013, 10:37:04 PM
Welcome to the forum.

Really a mix is good, some shavings and some sawdust (not too fine) - but mostly shavings.  You don't want it to plug up but you do want plenty of surface area for it to work.

The key is to pass the biodiesel through slowly, or do several pumped passes.  With my drywash tower I leave it circulating the batch in the settle tank for a few hours before the last pass into a storage tank.  In the settle tank the bio is just sitting on top of the soap layer that has dropped out, this is no problem.  Works a treat!

The first time you put bio through it will come out a dark colour, just keep recirculating until this goes.

Oh and always use hardwood shavings/sawdust :)
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: zatawitono on December 04, 2013, 06:41:07 AM
thanks for reply all .  ;)

i will build it , and i will post here for your rating about my biodiesel drywash tower .
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: Tony on December 04, 2013, 09:26:32 AM
Excellent, look forward to seeing it!

I think I need to re-make mine, the black plastic stepped tails I solvent-welded into the sides have started to crack and leak over the years.  The other fittings (grey waste and the pipe itself) are absolutely fine, however.

So if you are going solvent weld I would probably avoid using these:

(http://www.boddingtonkoi.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/h/o/hosetail_1.jpg)
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: zatawitono on December 04, 2013, 04:50:20 PM
can i ask you ? what the use of this product ? does fuel through it to get into the dryeash tower ? the function is what ?

sorry , asks too much .
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: Tony on December 04, 2013, 07:39:57 PM
It takes various flexible hose sizes and adapts to plastic waste fittings - but don't use it!
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: Julian on December 04, 2013, 07:54:22 PM
My dry wash tower never sealed properly and the hoses used to leak/sweat.

I've got round the problem by mounting it in one of the settling tanks ... now it can leak to it's hearts content!
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: Tony on December 05, 2013, 10:00:57 AM
Erm, yes, because of the cracking tails issue mine lives in a bucket... should have done it the KH way with heat and brass tank connectors.
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: Julian on December 05, 2013, 10:07:38 AM
Erm, yes, because of the cracking tails issue mine lives in a bucket... should have done it the KH way with heat and brass tank connectors.

Err ... think that was the JP way, but it still leaks from the screw lid ends.
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: K.H on December 05, 2013, 04:40:06 PM
Rubbish, sure I built mine first!  :)
Sticking something up in admin later that might interest you two
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: Julian on December 05, 2013, 06:50:52 PM
Rubbish, sure I built mine first!  :)
Sticking something up in admin later that might interest you two

You did build yours first and you used tank connectors, but I think it was me who heated the area so that the connector sat flat.

I need to leave this Godforsaken world having left my mark on it somewhere!

If your version of events differs, get your second and pistol and meet me on the common at dawn.
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: zatawitono on December 07, 2013, 08:29:15 AM
can i use this shavings ?

i just take from an industry of making wood door and wood window .

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz105/zatawitono/Untitled_zps3c6f2552.jpg
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: Julian on December 07, 2013, 02:31:33 PM
can i use this shavings ?

i just take from an industry of making wood door and wood window .

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz105/zatawitono/Untitled_zps3c6f2552.jpg

That looks to be a mixture of hard and soft wood, but it seems to be reasonably free of dust.  If you can find a sack that's primarily hard wood shavings they should be fine.
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: zatawitono on December 07, 2013, 04:30:25 PM
oh , thanks julian ..

if sawdust for hamster ? that is hardwood or softwood ?

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz105/zatawitono/serbuk_zps4f8b7a92.jpg
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: Julian on December 07, 2013, 06:32:32 PM
That looks like soft wood to me.

I get my shavings from a window and door manufacturer and they tell me they have great difficulty in getting rid of it.

Apparently horses don't like hardwood shavings if it's used as bedding in stables, so the same may go for hamsters!
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: zatawitono on December 07, 2013, 07:02:13 PM
i also get from door and window manufacture , but mine mixed wood .  :(


really ? mr.julian
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: zatawitono on December 08, 2013, 08:07:08 AM
pine wood sawdust
is that suit for drywashing ?
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: Julian on December 08, 2013, 09:50:43 AM
No, that's softwood.
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: zatawitono on December 08, 2013, 04:19:15 PM
its too hard find this hard wood in my country .

any recommendation ? i plan buy on ebayy .
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: greasemonkey on December 08, 2013, 04:27:31 PM
I can't see why it should be difficult to find. You have some of the finest hard woods in the world.
Maybe getting pure shavings, without any soft wood in it may be a bit more difficult.
Have you tried some saw mills? The places they cut up the logs into planks. They should have plenty. If all they have is sawdust, then they should be able to tell you where to go to get the shavings.
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: zatawitono on December 10, 2013, 07:17:32 AM
i get information , active carbon also good for washing biodiesel , is that right ?
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: zatawitono on December 11, 2013, 03:55:30 AM
i got new sawdust from my java friend .
please help me ...
ican use these ?
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: greasemonkey on December 11, 2013, 10:12:42 AM
Try it is the best thing. Make a small tower out of a soda bottle, and tip a bit of bio in and see how it works. You need to pack the stuff in right, so it will give you an idea of how tight to get it.
Title: Re: drywashing
Post by: zatawitono on December 11, 2013, 04:51:18 PM
thanks brother ..

i have try it , and the result is success .
now i just put into my tower .

wait for my tower  ;)