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Title: Share methanol
Post by: whatarascal on July 19, 2013, 04:29:52 PM
Anyone wish to share methanol,
Last time I ordered 400litres

I will get prices from Dave at basic chemicals usually  works out at around 50p per litre
Title: Re: Share methanol
Post by: neisel on July 20, 2013, 06:51:06 PM
How much is 400 litres, never bought that much at one go.
Title: Re: Share methanol
Post by: julesandtash on July 20, 2013, 09:05:33 PM
Somewhere in the region of £250ish delivered I suspect
Title: Re: Share methanol
Post by: julianf on July 20, 2013, 09:20:39 PM
possibly this may make some sense (it was just for my notes, so may not to other people?)

(http://www.biopowered.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1432.0;attach=54;image)

i have (edited) on a seperate sheet, but their pricing was just crazy

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Title: Re: Share methanol
Post by: whatarascal on July 24, 2013, 05:56:55 PM
ordered 4 x 205 drums from basic cheaper than julians prices,shared one drum.
so have another spare
Title: Re: Share methanol
Post by: julianf on July 24, 2013, 08:08:54 PM
Can you let me know what basic charged per drum / delivery?

I did not call them.
Title: Re: Share methanol
Post by: Tony on July 24, 2013, 08:27:47 PM
Julian it is best to talk to Dave in person about deliveries, as he can sometimes (if you're prepared to wait) piggy back delivery on the back of a major order to a company local to you, and thus give excellent prices including delivery.  But quoting them on the forum wouldn't necessarily be representative of his usual prices, if you see what I mean.

Dave is a very helpful chap - he's definitely "one of us" and gives a monkeys about us little guys, can't recommend him enough!
Title: Re: Share methanol
Post by: whatarascal on July 25, 2013, 07:15:25 AM
Julian it is best to talk to Dave in person about deliveries, as he can sometimes (if you're prepared to wait) piggy back delivery on the back of a major order to a company local to you, and thus give excellent prices including delivery.  But quoting them on the forum wouldn't necessarily be representative of his usual prices, if you see what I mean.

Dave is a very helpful chap - he's definitely "one of us" and gives a monkeys about us little guys, can't recommend him enough!

I agree Tony its a more personal service than spread sheets in exel.
I remember one of our members a while back wouldn't telephone Dave cos he thought emails were the proper way to do business.
I like Dave at Basic Chemicals he does business in the old fashioned way.
Title: Re: Share methanol
Post by: julianf on July 25, 2013, 11:59:34 AM
Can you tell me your per-drum price please?

I just called basic, but Dave was not in, and noone else could tell me the price.
Title: Re: Share methanol
Post by: whatarascal on July 25, 2013, 02:51:18 PM
Can you tell me your per-drum price please?

I just called basic, but Dave was not in, and noone else could tell me the price.
Ohh well thats it then.

I speak to Inga usually, she will get all the info you need.
Title: Re: Share methanol
Post by: Soupstone on July 25, 2013, 06:10:08 PM
 Probably a bit irrelevent as Bonnymanns have not had any for a while, but curious as to what was crazy about their pricing?
 Bought an IBC from them in february to try and get costs down and it was £419 all told. 41.9ppl

Title: Re: Share methanol
Post by: julianf on July 25, 2013, 06:35:00 PM
The price was not great to start with, and then they wanted an IBC 'deposit' - which is fair enough.
But, my understanding of 'deposit' is that you get the cash back at the end.  Alas, their understanding is different, as they apply a fixed 'depreciation' charge of aprox 1/3rd of the deposit (IIRC).  So, effectivly, there's the price, but then you have to add on 1/3rd of the deposit cost also.

In the other companies i called up, some had single trip ibcs, some had reusable ones, and deposits etc. but none of the others had this sort of additional charge.
Title: Re: Share methanol
Post by: julianf on July 25, 2013, 06:37:11 PM
Quote
Methanol        -        [1000lt / 792kg] IBCs

Returnable IBCs        -        £555 per metric tonne = £439.56 per IBC
IBC deposit                -        £245
IBC credit                -        £170 (if returned within 3 months of issue in the same condition as it was received in)


Non-returnable IBCs        -        £770 per metric tonne = £609.84 per IBC
No IBC deposits / credit



Drums                -        [162kg] drums

Only option - returnable

                -        £800 per metric tonne = £129.60 per drum
Drum deposit        -        £16
Drum credit        -        £4.50 (if returned within 3 months of issue in the same condition as received in)



Delivery charges

0 - 499kg        -        £55
500 - 999kg        -        £45
1000kg+        -        £35
Title: Re: Share methanol
Post by: julianf on July 25, 2013, 06:39:30 PM
Ahh- i appologise - it was not Bonnymans at all, but Brenntag.

See what happens when i dont get the spreadsheet out!

; )
Title: Re: Share methanol
Post by: nathanrobo on July 26, 2013, 08:47:34 PM
Can't agree more about Dave - very personable, great prices - what more can you want.