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Title: Dongle and phone type question
Post by: Rotary-Motion on May 29, 2013, 08:46:35 PM
ok folks

this is my Q, i got an unlocked dongle and a giffgaff sim for internet only! no phone stuff

now can i use this sim that fits in the dongle in my phone so when im out and about, the phone becomes a WIFI piont so i can wifi my satelite box to my phone?

hope i got that across right?
Title: Re: Dongle and phone type question
Post by: BANDIT2 on May 29, 2013, 09:03:23 PM
nope, havn't got a scooby what your on about but I am a pooter tard,
Ask a landrover question,I knows lots about them cos I got one and it likes to break down quite a bit. ::)
Title: Re: Dongle and phone type question
Post by: Rotary-Motion on May 29, 2013, 09:04:13 PM
hehe

i will keep ya in mind as they do pop up now and again...

 :)
Title: Re: Dongle and phone type question
Post by: BANDIT2 on May 29, 2013, 09:04:56 PM
Oh, I am also a phone tard too-soz :-\
Title: Re: Dongle and phone type question
Post by: BANDIT2 on May 29, 2013, 09:09:16 PM
perhaps if you strapped yer dongler to your water rocket you may get more wiffy range-i dunno.
Title: Re: Dongle and phone type question
Post by: Rotary-Motion on May 29, 2013, 09:13:06 PM
perhaps if you strapped yer dongler to your water rocket you may get more wiffy range-i dunno.

yeah may be best rather than dropping a couple feet  8)
Title: Re: Dongle and phone type question
Post by: greasemonkey on May 29, 2013, 09:18:54 PM
I think not. I've asked questions along similar lines to the telecos. The answer comes back that the dongle sim is different to a phone sim. Also, when a phone is connected to the web, it is using the telephone signal, and when  a dongle is connected to the web, is is using a dongle specific signal. This is why some websites have to be altered or modified in some way to view on a phone, where as with a dongle, you see the same site as with a landline.
Also why I have perfect voda signal on my phone, and nowt on a voda dongle.

The way I understand it, you need a far more sophisticated operating system to use the Dongle signal, something most phones don't have.
Title: Re: Dongle and phone type question
Post by: Rotary-Motion on May 29, 2013, 09:24:19 PM
hmmm not good

plan is to try get internet into my icecrpyt box, it will or can use wifi (buy wifi dongle/stick) so need to wifi it to something which i thought the phone may do. as can set it to tether and become wifi.
Title: Re: Dongle and phone type question
Post by: therecklessengineer on May 29, 2013, 09:27:52 PM
Sorry greasemonkey, but I don't think that's correct. There is no difference between a phone and dongle SIM. The difference is in how the operator expects them to behave - they won't expect (or probably allow) a dongle SIM to make phone calls for example.

Website alter themselves for phones to ensure that they are displayed correctly to the user, and in some cases will be optimised for a touch screen.

What phone have you Squidward?

(Seeing as your icecrypt box is running Linux, you could probably persuade it to use a 3G dongle directly. But that involves Linux magic, and will probably void the warranty if you go poking around in the OS)
Title: Re: Dongle and phone type question
Post by: Rotary-Motion on May 29, 2013, 09:33:02 PM
warranty im not worried, kill it for all i care...

my phone is samsung ace, could that work?
Title: Re: Dongle and phone type question
Post by: Rotary-Motion on May 29, 2013, 09:43:20 PM
ok could i do this?

put the ethernet cable (from box) into the laptop ethernet with dongle in usb slot for net?
Title: Re: Dongle and phone type question
Post by: therecklessengineer on May 29, 2013, 09:48:15 PM
Here's the easy way: http://androidflip.com/how-to-tether-samsung-galaxy-ace-as-a-wi-fi-hotspot/ (http://androidflip.com/how-to-tether-samsung-galaxy-ace-as-a-wi-fi-hotspot/)
Title: Re: Dongle and phone type question
Post by: Rotary-Motion on May 29, 2013, 09:54:06 PM
Here's the easy way: http://androidflip.com/how-to-tether-samsung-galaxy-ace-as-a-wi-fi-hotspot/ (http://androidflip.com/how-to-tether-samsung-galaxy-ace-as-a-wi-fi-hotspot/)

will that work with the giffgaff sim? hmmm infact not sure if phone is unlocked from orange?
Title: Re: Dongle and phone type question
Post by: greasemonkey on May 29, 2013, 09:56:58 PM
Sorry greasemonkey, but I don't think that's correct. There is no difference between a phone and dongle SIM. The difference is in how the operator expects them to behave - they won't expect (or probably allow) a dongle SIM to make phone calls for example.

Website alter themselves for phones to ensure that they are displayed correctly to the user, and in some cases will be optimised for a touch screen.




 8)
Title: Re: Dongle and phone type question
Post by: therecklessengineer on May 29, 2013, 10:05:12 PM
Here's the easy way: http://androidflip.com/how-to-tether-samsung-galaxy-ace-as-a-wi-fi-hotspot/ (http://androidflip.com/how-to-tether-samsung-galaxy-ace-as-a-wi-fi-hotspot/)

will that work with the giffgaff sim? hmmm infact not sure if phone is unlocked from orange?

Should do, although you might run into problems if the phone is locked to a network.
Title: Re: Dongle and phone type question
Post by: Rossey on May 29, 2013, 10:57:43 PM
You can use your phone as a wifi hot stop, but it will then use your mobile signal to access the Internet.

Also giff gaff have or going stop tethering being free so it'll cost ya.
Title: Re: Dongle and phone type question
Post by: Rotary-Motion on May 30, 2013, 08:20:53 AM
i best clear this up, i did read somewhere normal giffgaff moblie contracts dont allow tethering, think it can be used but they dont like it, if you want to tether you need a gigabag contract not a giffgaff goodybag contract, goodybag contract for internet is only useage via the phone, gigabag is for tethering wifi apps to the net or to your laptop, so i believe ...

http://giffgaff.com/goodybags/3gb-mobile-broadband

Title: Re: Dongle and phone type question
Post by: Rotary-Motion on June 01, 2013, 05:30:58 PM
dongles suck pants 3G yeah whateva giffgaff more like 2G

 >:(
Title: Re: Dongle and phone type question
Post by: greasemonkey on June 01, 2013, 07:33:14 PM
It depends on how much signal you have. 3 network 3G, in abergavenny, is as fast as ever you could want it. Even on a good day, where I am, you still have to buffer a video on Utube. I've got to poke the dongle out through a sky light, it won't receive a signal in the caravan. It used to, until I put Kingspan in the walls, so I put it down to the foil on the insulation. Also, tuning the computer a little bit seems to help. I can't remember what I did now, but there are ways of speeding it up.
A dongle does seem sensitive to its environment, and the weather.
Title: Re: Dongle and phone type question
Post by: Rotary-Motion on June 01, 2013, 07:35:17 PM
i weill try it on ext usb cable, thks
Title: Re: Dongle and phone type question
Post by: greasemonkey on June 01, 2013, 07:42:37 PM
Go for it. I've got mine on a 5 metre, plus a one metre cable, 6 in all. I think they recommend that the dongle is on at least a 6 inch cable. Not great to just plug it into the laptop.