Biopowered - vegetable oil and biodiesel forum
General => Chatter => Topic started by: Head Womble on May 23, 2013, 11:27:49 PM
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Due to my recent problems I've had to move my bio plant,
so yesterday it was all loaded up on a trailer and today I've been plumbing it up,
tomorrow is the wiring.
I have the use of a 14 x 8 metal shed, with three phase power if needed.
The down side is a 20 mile round trip every time I need to do something, so I'll have to be more organised in the future.
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Presumably the best thing to do would be to skip time and energy consuming demething, and just make a whole load of biodiesel batches at once and bubble them all off to atmosphere? Not particularly nice to vent Methanol but given the circumstances...
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I've not demethed for some time now, well since starting to water wash.
I may have to have one batch dewatering while another is reacting and another washing, so three batches on the go at one time.
It's a good job I've got a bit of oil stashed away.
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Whilst we were living in the rented place last year, my plant was 1.5hrs drive away (which was better than nothing!)
I found the most tedious bit was waiting for it to heat up - i dont know how you have been heating, but i think it may be worth considering beefing up the heater some?
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Thought I'd post up some photos, we all like photos.
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg264/mark405td/001-3_zps6c02581c.jpg) (http://s250.photobucket.com/user/mark405td/media/001-3_zps6c02581c.jpg.html)
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(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg264/mark405td/004-1_zpsa508b9e0.jpg) (http://s250.photobucket.com/user/mark405td/media/004-1_zpsa508b9e0.jpg.html)
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My bloody Lino's filthy already and you haven't even produced any bio yet!
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Doesn't it take up more room lid on its side like that?
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You've got your whole set up 90° out...It'll never work like that
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Julian, it may be dirty but at least it's been used.
You lot may jest but I've found a new angle on bio production.
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this before or after?
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this before or after?
Before or after what ?
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this before or after?
Before or after what ?
plant relocation
pics @ 90
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After.
I've found a few leaks that were hiding under the insulation, so I need to get them sealed before I insulate it,
and all the electrics will be redone once my mate sees it and freaks out (it all works but is "probably" not up to code).
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keep an eye on ebay for a 3 phase imersian heater, they go cheap on there (most of them are bloody expensive new)
just make sure you have enough oil flow to move the heat around ;)
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looking good, glad you know whats going on in there hehe, i just love pipes lol
8)
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keep an eye on ebay for a 3 phase imersian heater, they go cheap on there (most of them are bloody expensive new)
just make sure you have enough oil flow to move the heat around ;)
Now that's a good idea.
What size boss do they use?
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some are different... but you can get ones that fit in the normal sized hole (2 1/4 inch or whatever it is?)
or you could just wire up 3 single phase immersions in delta...
(a positive to each immersion, then join all3 negative connections together - they'll work at 3kw each, drawing 3kw from each positive connection. but you don;t need a negative connection - saving needing a 9kw cable)
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That's star configuration that is, delta is when they're wired into a triangle with each phase at a point of the triangle.
If it's 415V three phase then star is the way to go as above, if it's 230V three phase (uncommon in this country but produced by some inverters) then delta is the way.
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oops yes, star not delta! I described it right but named it wrong... in the middle of posting I checked ebay for one for you and it confuddled me
it'll be mains 3 phase so 415v phase to phase
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Yes it's 415v three phase that I have at the workshop.
I'll ask the guy what's the best way forward is, I know we can get power out to the shed it's if it's cost effective.
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What's the blue pump do?
It draws from above the heater and just goes back in the top.
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What's the blue pump do?
It draws from above the heater and just goes back in the top.
That's my small rodent.
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A rapid evaporation device AKA red squirrel.
It sprays bio into the head space and the sudden drop in pressure releases the methanol.
However due to not demething anymore and needing the pump for other things it will be removed soon.
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Why not make 800 litres at one go, I have an 800 litre tank, no pump, but it was a processor,free if you can get it down to you. Terry
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Why not make 800 litres at one go, I have an 800 litre tank, no pump, but it was a processor,free if you can get it down to you. Terry
Nice thought, but I have been asked to keep my batch sizes as they are, one of the conditions of getting the space.
I've also got to keep it clean, which will be a challenge for me.
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I've also got to keep it clean, which will be a challenge for me.
Laugh .... I nearly used a smiley!
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May I ask why you have to relocate Mark? or is it personal?
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May I ask why you have to relocate Mark? or is it personal?
The housing association took a dim view of my activities, it was either stop production at home or get evicted.
So I moved my setup.
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Bummer bloody people with nothing better to do hope it all goes well