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Vegetable oil motoring => Filter rigs => Topic started by: nathanrobo on March 05, 2013, 05:59:34 PM
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WVO Designs have what looks like a pretty capable gear pump for transferring WVO from the restaurant to your vehicle:
http://www.wvodesigns.com/shop/wvo-pumps/monster-pump.html (http://www.wvodesigns.com/shop/wvo-pumps/monster-pump.html)
The suggestion is that it can cope with unfiltered oil. I spoke to my gear pump manufacturer and they recon that even with helical gears, the oil should have some filtration. Opinions please!! I'm planning fetch a pump in and give it a trial - It will be interesting to hear whether is struggles with thick, unfiltered oil.
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Im thinking that is a "how long is a bit of string" question...
If the wvo is contaminated with dusty bcbs, then itll, i suspect, be fine, but, if its contaminated with dead mice, full size blackened chips, snails, kitchen cutlery, etc.etc. then i dont think it would be.
You could fit a foot strainer, but then they just get blocked.
I have a mono, and have considered using it to unload the car, but i dont even think it would work well there.
I guess if you have some sort of setup where the input pipe *cant* get close to the bottom of the drum, that would be a partial solution?
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Looks like a capable pump, but in their videos they look to be pomping pretty clean oil.
By it's design I'd have thought a gear pump wouldn't be happy chomping away at BCBs.
They are a lot more expensive and probably not as quick, but I think a Mono pump would be better suited to the duty. As their generic name ... "progressive cavity" implies they sort of take gulps of fluid and pass it along ... bitlike an archmedian screw.
I unwittingly transferred a crane fly out of my settling tank using my Mono. It got stuck in a clear bodied filter and so was visible. In travelling through the pump it only lost a wing and one leg!
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but did it survive julian?
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but did it survive julian?
Nothing survives a "Julian"
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is he like medussa ?
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is he like medussa ?
Wasn't she female? On second thoughts, don't answer that.
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WVO Designs have what looks like a pretty capable gear pump for transferring WVO from the restaurant to your vehicle:
Mate would you be expecting to run an extension lead out of the restaurant to the dark depths of the alleyway to run it ?
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is he like medussa ?
Wasn't she female? On second thoughts, don't answer that.
not sure not a snake person, think there wedding tackle is too far down its head to see, wonder if all of them were one sex?
hmmm :-\
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wow crikey nice price tag
the ol shaft looks slightly chewed up to me? for a brand new part/picture need a lathe person to clarify...
(http://www.wvodesigns.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/g/o/goldstreamgears02_1_1.jpg)
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hmmm just read then spec
-will not work well with motor oil. New 1750RPM motor coming for motor oil use. ETA 2/15/2013
perhaaps motor oil is too thin for it??? odd.
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Hmm,
Think i'll stick to the original idea. Heat, pass through strainer via gravity.
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HOW MUCH!!!???
Looking at the rotors, it looks very much to me like the same principle as a hydraulic pump off a digger. If it is, it would rip your fingers off, spit them out without changing its speed, and then start on the rest of your hand.
So long as it doesn't hit metal.
Just an idea thats occurred to me. What about try to put a motor on a hydraulic pump off a digger. I would say, even a shot hydraulic pump would still have enough go in it to pump thick gloopy WVO. Maybe try and find a shot one off, say, a two tonne or less mini digger. Anything bigger might need to big a motor to drive it. There should be plenty about, they wear out all the time.
The price of it is coming in at Hydraulic pump prices.
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hmmm just read then spec
-will not work well with motor oil. New 1750RPM motor coming for motor oil use. ETA 2/15/2013
perhaaps motor oil is too thin for it??? odd.
I can't quite fathom that out. It seems as though they relate the speed of the motor to the fact that it is not so good with engine oil, but I can't see what speed this one turns at.
A hydraulic pump would turn at engine speed, so around 3500RPM. If this one is going at that speed, then maybe somehow it struggles to "catch" the oil, and flicks it away instead, which a slower motor would not do.
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HOW MUCH!!!???
Looking at the rotors, it looks very much to me like the same principle as a hydraulic pump off a digger. If it is, it would rip your fingers off, spit them out without changing its speed, and then start on the rest of your hand.
So long as it doesn't hit metal.
Like the sound of that!
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We use this style of pump at work for pumping thick gloopy oils contaminated with particles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaphragm_pump
http://www.netpumps.com/air-operated-pumps.html
http://www.fluidpumps.co.uk/wildenpumps.php?gclid=CLPt05a457UCFchY3godqXoAyA
Will pump nearly anything! Although they'll use a huge amount of air.
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HOW MUCH!!!???
Looking at the rotors, it looks very much to me like the same principle as a hydraulic pump off a digger. If it is, it would rip your fingers off, spit them out without changing its speed, and then start on the rest of your hand.
So long as it doesn't hit metal.
Like the sound of that!
reminds me of the guy (forget who) who put a car windscreen motor (its slow geared) on a hand rotary pump. cheap cheerful powerful and 12 volt. = nice, that can pump veg with inch bore i believe...
could even use this off your car batt on waste oil collections ;D sort the wireing and you could get 2 speeds and intermitant, yes nice bit of kit.
(http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu344/smoo69/P1000606.jpg)
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I actually have one of those in my garage. Just need a 12v windscreen motor :-)
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rotary hand pump do pump well and they run backwards to, i used it to suck out a tank, i use mine alot...
even to back pump oil out of a barrel bed sheet back into container to change sheet filter
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I use one of these and an inverter when needed
(http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm323/KRH01/792efbb5.jpg)
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still got mine never used it, i may sell it if anyones interested?
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i use a onga trash pump, 720 ltrs per min, run it just over idle and from an ibc on the ground to one on the truck 2 minutes max.
i did purchase a 15 gpm gear pump http://www.wvodesigns.com/shop/clearance/15gpm-goldstream-waste-oil-monster-pump-head-only.html the freight is the killer here, will put it on a 240 volt motor but would like to try a electric scooter motor on it 1st. there cheap and can run them on 12v or 24v if you want it to go faster, i put one on a small hand chaff cutter @ 12v it works okay more torgue needed,
after purchasing these items i found "chev small block oil pumps" worth a google also on utube.
cheers stuart